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  • Tried again, 10 races, 7p down. Zzzzzz.

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    • Well, I'm back like a crack addict.

      This time I'm trying to see if I can scalp for ticks and not get destroyed when a horse falls over. I won't bore you with the details but if I make anything I will be sure to let you know.

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      • Originally posted by shadowninja View Post
        Horse Racing / Carl 8th Mar : 2m Hcap Chs -0.1
        Horse Racing / Winc 8th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Hrd -0.09
        Horse Racing / Carl 8th Mar : 3m2f Hcap Chs -0.09
        Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Mar : 1m Mdn Stks -0.01
        Horse Racing / Carl 8th Mar : 2m4f Nov Hrd 0.15
        Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Mar : 1m4f Sell Stks -0.09

        Sod it. I give up. I have no edge.

        Do the opposite ? 4 winners and 1 loser, not too bad.

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        • Originally posted by shadowninja View Post
          Well, I'm back like a crack addict.

          This time I'm trying to see if I can scalp for ticks and not get destroyed when a horse falls over. I won't bore you with the details but if I make anything I will be sure to let you know.
          No news is bad news?!?

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          • Least said the better.

            It isn't just a case of reversing as it doesn't make sense to reverse what I was doing.

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            • Update for 9th to 15th March.

              For the next few races I tried to look at reducing my risk and increasing the reward as before I had high risk, low reward and it was 50/50 whether I would make profit or not in the end despite a promising start of something like 90% win rate. Note: I was holding until the end of the race.
              Horse Racing / Ayr 9th Mar : 3m1f Beg Chs 0.09
              Horse Racing / Sand 9th Mar : 3m Chs -0.07
              Horse Racing / Leic 9th Mar : 2m7f Hunt Chs 0.1
              Horse Racing / Ayr 9th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd 0.03
              Horse Racing / Sand 9th Mar : 2m6f Hcap Hrd -0.04
              Horse Racing / Winc 9th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd -0.1
              Horse Racing / Ayr 9th Mar : 2m5f Hcap Hrd 0.06
              Horse Racing / Leic 9th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Chs -0.1
              Horse Racing / Wolv 9th Mar : 1m4f Hcap -0.04
              Horse Racing / Ayr 10th Mar : 3m1f Hcap Chs 0
              Horse Racing / Chep 10th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd 0.04
              Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 2m2f Hcap Hrd -0.07
              Horse Racing / Strat 12th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Chs 0.08
              Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Hrd 0.07
              Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Chs 0.05
              Horse Racing / Strat 12th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.09
              Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 0.05
              Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m7f Hunt Chs 0.09
              Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 3m2f Hcap Chs 0.06
              Horse Racing / Strat 12th Mar : 2m NHF -0.18
              Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m1f NHF 0.03
              Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.09
              Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m4f Nov Hrd 0.08
              Horse Racing / Chelt 13th Mar : 2m Nov Chs 0.08
              Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m4f Mdn Chs -0.18
              Horse Racing / Sthl 13th Mar : 1m Claim Stks -0.05
              Horse Racing / Chelt 13th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs -0.15
              Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Hrd -0.36
              Horse Racing / Chelt 13th Mar : 2m Grd1 Hrd 0.03
              Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m1f Nov Hrd -1.16
              Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 4m Nov Chs 0.13
              Horse Racing / Hunt 14th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd -1.42

              The last few trades I just got unlucky. But it's put me off as I just couldn't "feel" the race and profit from it by holding out until the end.

              So I pared it right back to 10p stakes and tried to aim for 20 ticks, scratching trades if I felt I was wrong.
              Horse Racing / Sthl 14th Mar : 5f Hcap 0.02
              Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 2m5f Nov Hrd 0.01
              Horse Racing / Hunt 14th Mar : 2m Mdn Hrd 0
              Horse Racing / Sthl 14th Mar : 7f Hcap 0.21
              Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 3m Nov Chs 0.01
              Horse Racing / Hunt 14th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs 0.02
              Horse Racing / Sthl 14th Mar : 1m Hcap 0.02
              Horse Racing / Kemp 14th Mar : 6f Hcap 0
              Horse Racing / Kemp 14th Mar : 1m4f Hcap 0.05
              Horse Racing / Kemp 14th Mar : 6f Hcap -0.2

              Decided I ought to stay away from shorter races as it got too volatile for me to be able to trade in and out.

              So, stuck to longer races, trying to trade for 20 ticks but taking less or scratching if I could sense the market was gonna move against me. Encouraged by yesterday's success, used 20p stakes.
              Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd -0.02
              Horse Racing / Hex 15th Mar : 2m Beg Chs 0
              Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs 0.02
              Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 2m5f Grd1 Chs 0
              Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m Claim Hrd 0.01
              Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 3m Grd1 Hrd 0.03
              Horse Racing / Hex 15th Mar : 4m Hcap Chs -0.02
              Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m3f Nov Chs 0.02
              Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 2m5f Hcap Chs -0.01
              Horse Racing / Hex 15th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd 0.02
              Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.03
              Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 3m1f Hcap Chs 0.05
              Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 0.05

              That's better. Made some judgement errors eg exiting a bit sooner but it did spike up about 15 ticks after I exited so I read the market right I guess.

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              • One more:
                Horse Racing / Wolv 15th Mar : 1m Hcap 0.06

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                • Originally posted by shadowninja View Post
                  Update for 9th to 15th March.

                  For the next few races I tried to look at reducing my risk and increasing the reward as before I had high risk, low reward and it was 50/50 whether I would make profit or not in the end despite a promising start of something like 90% win rate. Note: I was holding until the end of the race.
                  Horse Racing / Ayr 9th Mar : 3m1f Beg Chs 0.09
                  Horse Racing / Sand 9th Mar : 3m Chs -0.07
                  Horse Racing / Leic 9th Mar : 2m7f Hunt Chs 0.1
                  Horse Racing / Ayr 9th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd 0.03
                  Horse Racing / Sand 9th Mar : 2m6f Hcap Hrd -0.04
                  Horse Racing / Winc 9th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd -0.1
                  Horse Racing / Ayr 9th Mar : 2m5f Hcap Hrd 0.06
                  Horse Racing / Leic 9th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Chs -0.1
                  Horse Racing / Wolv 9th Mar : 1m4f Hcap -0.04
                  Horse Racing / Ayr 10th Mar : 3m1f Hcap Chs 0
                  Horse Racing / Chep 10th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd 0.04
                  Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 2m2f Hcap Hrd -0.07
                  Horse Racing / Strat 12th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Chs 0.08
                  Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Hrd 0.07
                  Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Chs 0.05
                  Horse Racing / Strat 12th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.09
                  Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 0.05
                  Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m7f Hunt Chs 0.09
                  Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 3m2f Hcap Chs 0.06
                  Horse Racing / Strat 12th Mar : 2m NHF -0.18
                  Horse Racing / Taun 12th Mar : 2m1f NHF 0.03
                  Horse Racing / Plump 12th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.09
                  Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m4f Nov Hrd 0.08
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 13th Mar : 2m Nov Chs 0.08
                  Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m4f Mdn Chs -0.18
                  Horse Racing / Sthl 13th Mar : 1m Claim Stks -0.05
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 13th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs -0.15
                  Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Hrd -0.36
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 13th Mar : 2m Grd1 Hrd 0.03
                  Horse Racing / Sedge 13th Mar : 2m1f Nov Hrd -1.16
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 4m Nov Chs 0.13
                  Horse Racing / Hunt 14th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd -1.42

                  The last few trades I just got unlucky. But it's put me off as I just couldn't "feel" the race and profit from it by holding out until the end.

                  So I pared it right back to 10p stakes and tried to aim for 20 ticks, scratching trades if I felt I was wrong.
                  Horse Racing / Sthl 14th Mar : 5f Hcap 0.02
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 2m5f Nov Hrd 0.01
                  Horse Racing / Hunt 14th Mar : 2m Mdn Hrd 0
                  Horse Racing / Sthl 14th Mar : 7f Hcap 0.21
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 3m Nov Chs 0.01
                  Horse Racing / Hunt 14th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs 0.02
                  Horse Racing / Sthl 14th Mar : 1m Hcap 0.02
                  Horse Racing / Kemp 14th Mar : 6f Hcap 0
                  Horse Racing / Kemp 14th Mar : 1m4f Hcap 0.05
                  Horse Racing / Kemp 14th Mar : 6f Hcap -0.2

                  Decided I ought to stay away from shorter races as it got too volatile for me to be able to trade in and out.

                  So, stuck to longer races, trying to trade for 20 ticks but taking less or scratching if I could sense the market was gonna move against me. Encouraged by yesterday's success, used 20p stakes.
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd -0.02
                  Horse Racing / Hex 15th Mar : 2m Beg Chs 0
                  Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs 0.02
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 2m5f Grd1 Chs 0
                  Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m Claim Hrd 0.01
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 3m Grd1 Hrd 0.03
                  Horse Racing / Hex 15th Mar : 4m Hcap Chs -0.02
                  Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m3f Nov Chs 0.02
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 2m5f Hcap Chs -0.01
                  Horse Racing / Hex 15th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd 0.02
                  Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.03
                  Horse Racing / Chelt 15th Mar : 3m1f Hcap Chs 0.05
                  Horse Racing / Towc 15th Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 0.05

                  That's better. Made some judgement errors eg exiting a bit sooner but it did spike up about 15 ticks after I exited so I read the market right I guess.
                  Are you seriously investing all your time to make cents or is it a bot ?

                  How have you the patience ? If you are, I wish I had your dedication!

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                  • Originally posted by PC0845 View Post
                    Are you seriously investing all your time to make cents or is it a bot ?

                    How have you the patience ? If you are, I wish I had your dedication!
                    This is a good question.

                    Keefter has convinced me it is possible to make money in-race. I have proven to myself that I still yet have to be consistent and have lost some pennies - if I had traded bigger, I'd have been hit quite hard. So until I figure out IR trading, there's little point in me going in big.

                    So yes, I have the patience - but it comes from being either old or a seasoned trader.

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                    • I think it is very wise to use pennies when experimenting with in play. I did that until I got confident.

                      I like in play, keeps the blood pressure high.

                      My results today. There are a few tiny small punts here but the rest is in running. A couple of "certainties" turned into real shockers, but that is the game.

                      It's all about risk and reward and money management. This could easily have been a £100+ plus day, those happen more often than the losers and the graph continues its upward trend.

                      I made I mistake or two so what, not bothered as it keeps my feet on the ground.:Stupid

                      Up for the week and the month so I must be doing something right.

                      If you stick with the same thing long enough it becomes automatic. That's what practice is all about.

                      The reality of this game is in my humble opinion, that losing is in effect the norm and until one can grasp that and deal with it emotionally one can not be a winner.

                      Small losses big wins. No need to buy a book. That's it.


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                      Horse Racing: -£150.88 | Tote: | Total P&L: -£150.88



                      Horse Racing Showing 1 - 18 of 18 markets

                      Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
                      Horse Racing / Fake 16th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 16-Mar-12 16:55 16-Mar-12 17:00 4.97
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : To Be Placed 16-Mar-12 16:40 16-Mar-12 16:58 -8.00
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 16-Mar-12 16:40 16-Mar-12 16:57 -10.00
                      Horse Racing / Ling 16th Mar : 1m Hcap 16-Mar-12 16:25 16-Mar-12 16:33 5.48
                      Horse Racing / Fake 16th Mar : 2m5f Nov Chs 16-Mar-12 16:15 16-Mar-12 16:24 31.79
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : 3m2f Hunt Chs 16-Mar-12 16:00 16-Mar-12 16:11 1.95
                      Horse Racing / Ling 16th Mar : 1m Mdn Stks 16-Mar-12 15:45 16-Mar-12 15:48 -6.92
                      Horse Racing / Fake 16th Mar : 2m5f Hcap Chs 16-Mar-12 15:35 16-Mar-12 15:42 6.63
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : 3m2f Grd1 Chs 16-Mar-12 15:20 16-Mar-12 15:27 1.89
                      Horse Racing / Ling 16th Mar : 7f Hcap 16-Mar-12 15:05 16-Mar-12 15:07 6.43
                      Horse Racing / Fake 16th Mar : 3m Beg Chs 16-Mar-12 14:55 16-Mar-12 15:03 12.12
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : 3m Nov Hrd 16-Mar-12 14:40 16-Mar-12 14:46 8.14
                      Horse Racing / Ling 16th Mar : 7f Claim Stks 16-Mar-12 14:30 16-Mar-12 14:32 -72.00
                      Horse Racing / Fake 16th Mar : 2m Sell Hrd 16-Mar-12 14:20 16-Mar-12 14:27 -139.66
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : 2m1f Hcap Hrd 16-Mar-12 14:05 16-Mar-12 14:12 11.20
                      Horse Racing / Ling 16th Mar : 1m2f Claim Stks 16-Mar-12 13:55 16-Mar-12 13:57 4.10
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : To Be Placed 16-Mar-12 13:30 16-Mar-12 13:39 -2.00
                      Horse Racing / Chelt 16th Mar : 2m1f Grd1 Hrd 16-Mar-12 13:30 16-Mar-12 13:36 -7.00

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                      • Shame about the loss.

                        You should start an IR blog or challenge on this forum. Would be interested to see how it pans out over months.

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                        • Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Mar : 2m Hcap 0.04

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                          • Horse Racing / Uttox 17th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 0.03
                            Horse Racing / Kemp 17th Mar : 3m Nov Chs -0.02
                            Horse Racing / Newc 17th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd -0.13
                            Horse Racing / Kemp 17th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd -0.19

                            The first two I forgot to pay attention to the timer. Silly bear.

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                            • Horse Racing / Wolv 17th Mar : 1m4f Hcap 0.03

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                              • One thing I like about IR trading is you very quickly learn to be decisive!!

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