Front runner

[domza]

LOL - I actually use Sportinglife.com racecards and can find a front runner pretty quickly by reading the trip notes.

Can you give us exact link because I was trying to find tips for front runners on Sportinglife and I wasn't successful. Thanks.

[Caan Berry]

What about when they are starting from stalls?

You can watch them before they go in, its usually the ones that are a bit of a pain to get in that are 'buzzed up' although the stalls is a bit more of a tricky affair.

If you read the verdicts i think Keefter meant domza

[Emkayracing]

Can you give us exact link because I was trying to find tips for front runners on Sportinglife and I wasn't successful. Thanks.

Example > http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/r...p-now-handicap

Scroll down to Formwatch;

Formwatch

Salvatore Fury (IRE) 10-3 (9-6) Tracked leaders, went 2nd over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong, 3rd of 6, 5l behind Space Artist (9-11) at Musselburgh 5f hcp 0-80 (4) gf. NON RUNNER

Sartori 20-1 (9-1) Made all, ridden 2f out, driven and all out, won at Ripon 6f 3yo hcp 0-70 (5) gd beating Traditionelle (8-9) by nk, 13 ran.NON RUNNER

Bearskin (IRE) 4-1 (8-11) Close up, ridden over 1f out, led entering final furlong, kept on well, won at Ripon 6f mdn hcp 0-70 (5) sft beating Margrets Gift (9-7) by 3 1/2l, 7 ran.NON RUNNER

Gold Beau (FR) 11-4 (9-13) Chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, driven over 1f out, one pace final 100 yards, 4th of 8, 2l behind Baron Run (9-8) at Hamilton 6f hcp 0-70 (5) gf.

Jinky 5-1 (9-9) Close up, ridden and every chance over 1f out, kept on one pace, 3rd of 9, 2 3/4l behind Layla's Hero (9-1) at Ayr 6f hcp 0-75 (5) gs.

L'ami Louis (IRE) 25-1 (9-11) Taken to post early, tracked winner until ridden over 2f out, weakened over 1f out, last of 10, 13l behind Goninodaethat (9-1) at Ayr 6f hcp 0-75 (5) gs.

Sleeper Class 7-2 (8-6) Soon outpaced and behind, headway under pressure 2f out, soon ridden, stayed on to dispute 3rd final furlong, no impression with front pair, 4th of 6, 4l behind Spirit Of Alsace (7-9) at Ayr 6f 3yo hcp 0-80 (4) gf in Jun.

Spirit Of Alsace (IRE) 10-1 (8-6) Keen close up, headway 2f out, ridden and kept on one pace final furlong, 3rd of 10, 1 1/2l behind Goninodaethat (9-1) at Ayr 6f hcp 0-75 (5) gs.

Calling You (IRE) 12-1 (8-9) Chased leaders, 5th halfway, ridden and no impression in 7th 1f out, no extra inside final furlong, 10th of 14, 10l behind Calm Bay (7-11) at Navan 5f app hcap gf in Jun.


Points to note;

1) Comments are for last run only - you should review each runner's previous runs (From the racecard, click on the horse's name and hover over the date of previous runs for comments in running)

2) Consider trip, ground, draw, race type, amount of runners, headgear, jockey etc for both the race being reviewed and form in the book

Be lucky

[napshnap]

I don't understand? you mean how do I determine the pace style of the runner? Tell me what you ae doing now perhaps?

Yes, how do you determine the pace style?

For now, i determine pace style by reading first sentence in past races comments and detecting some key words (for ex. i saw "led" in horse's last 10 races so i think that horse is frontrunner).

[napshnap]

You can watch them before they go in, its usually the ones that are a bit of a pain to get in that are 'buzzed up' although the stalls is a bit more of a tricky affair.

If you read the verdicts i think Keefter meant domza

I saw few times when horses that "played up" before going in stalls murder their opponents winning by many lengths.

[domza]

Thanks chuck536 and Emkayracing. Emkayracing every answer should be like that, everything is much easier to learn when you have examples in front of you.:Brilliant

[Temujin]

http://www.punters.com.au/form-guide/Geelong-Synthetic_40626/Join-The-Briseis-Club-0-58-Highweight-Handicap_261721/#Speedmap

Would imagine there would be a similar group for UK racing.


The way the race panned out by the way was 2, 4, 11, 6, 9.

The speedmap showed 2, 4, 11, 9, 6.

Not too far away....

[napshnap]

I don't understand? you mean how do I determine the pace style of the runner? Tell me what you ae doing now perhaps?

Yes, how do you determine the pace style?

For now, i determine pace style by reading first sentence in past races comments and detecting some key words (for ex. i saw "led" in horse's last 10 races so i think that horse is frontrunner).

[domza]

Yes, how do you determine the pace style?

For now, i determine pace style by reading first sentence in past races comments and detecting some key words (for ex. i saw "led" in horse's last 10 races so i think that horse is frontrunner).

What web site do you use for read that cemments and hows going that for you, do you have success in trading on front runners with that "led" comments? Thanks

[napshnap]

What web site do you use for read that cemments and hows going that for you, do you have success in trading on front runners with that "led" comments? Thanks

http://www.attheraces.com/form.aspx?id=2610257&ref=cardmain&dte=2014-07-31&refsite=atr&npl=yes

In "Result" section, hover mouse over weird symbol after horse's win/lose lengths. Can't say that it dramatically increased my income but at least markets became more clear for me. For ex. situations when fav run behind other horses and market don't give a f because they khow that fav's pace style is mostly "held up".

[domza]

http://www.attheraces.com/form.aspx?...te=atr&npl=yes

In "Result" section, hover mouse over weird symbol after horse's win/lose lengths. Can't say that it dramatically increased my income but at least markets became more clear for me. For ex. situations when fav run behind other horses and market don't give a f because they khow that fav's pace style is mostly "held up".

I was looking for some website like this, thanks.

[ron]

Thanks.... thats me btw for those that don't know.

On the Jumps races you're likely to be able to spot some good pointers just before the start of the race too, occasionally you'll get a right no brainer of a trade just because the way the horse was behaving.
If the horse is generally lining up in front and looking a bit twitchy/edgy then it can be clear it wants to get on with things, obviously if 4 in a line are there though it has competition.

The best back to lay trades are often in a race where there is a 'front-runner' and the rest of the horses have no interest in leading, competition for the race is competition for the odds to come in rapidly. Keeping it select is probably a massively important factor here too, often i'll keep it to one or two a day - sometimes none. Hope that helps!!

Also Timeform lists horses previous prices in-running lows/highs.

Every day is a school day, i didnt know it was you Chuck/Cran and i have followed you on Facebook for yonks

[Firkinelle]

Every day is a school day, i didnt know it was you Chuck/Cran and i have followed you on Facebook for yonks

Don't think Chuck is Cran

[inandout]

Cran Berry is great though

[Firkinelle]

Cran Berry is great though

Good one