Keeping Pre Race Lay Bets After Going Inplay?

[merlin7]

Hi there. I'm fairly new to Geeks Toy and still only just feeling my way around. I desperately need some help please from anyone who feel they can answer this query. I'm currently experimenting with Laying The Field and I know how to place the lay bets prior to the runners going off in their various races. I need to keep the pre race bets when all go into play but do not seem to be able to keep the bets via the Bet Resistance Button. Is there any kind person out there who can point the way forward for me please? I'm not currently technical or expert enough to locate the current method. Would be great if someone could define the steps for me.

[Thomson]

Hi merlin7

Select market from market navigator,

Right clic market header bar,

Go down to advanced betting and clic,

Change default bet persistence to keep......Job done...

[Wilf-]

Thomsons post is correct, but when it comes to laying it might be safer to do it manually in the unmatched bets window this video should help. You just need to make sure the bet has a K for keep in the green box and make sure you press on the green tick to confirm the bet.

[merlin7]

Thanks Thomson you are a star! I will give this a whirl and see what results I get. Looking at laying at various prices so need to have time to place the bets pre off and keep all when going inplay. Thanks again will return later with an update.

[merlin7]

Thanks to you too Wilf, very kind of you to reply. As I stated in the post above, I need to lay pre off with at least five different odds prices, and retain these when they actually go off. It appears to me that attempting to do it via the video method, would there be enough time to click on each of the horses and carry out the function required as past experience tells me that the bets auto cancel after a very short time. There would have to be a way of stretching the cancelled bets period somewhat longer I think.

[merlin7]

To Thomson/Wilf another query popped up. After I have placed the lay bets via Multi Tool, I keep getting the Pending Bets Box coming directly in front of the Multi Tool Box and obscuring part of it. How do I get this Pending Bets Box to go back to the left hand margin side and so clear this obstruction?
Thanks.

[Wilf-]

To Thomson/Wilf another query popped up. After I have placed the lay bets via Multi Tool, I keep getting the Pending Bets Box coming directly in front of the Multi Tool Box and obscuring part of it. How do I get this Pending Bets Box to go back to the left hand margin side and so clear this obstruction?
Thanks.

Hi Merlin,

I should have said that you don't have to click each one in the unmatched bets box just place all your bets via the multibet tool and just right click in the unmatched bets box and choose change bet persistence to keep all. Both ways work just use whatever option suits you just be careful with default bet persistence as an accidental lay bet could cost you.

As for the pending bets box have you tried right clicking the box and choosing Dock it should place it back to the left margin if that's what you mean?

[merlin7]

I am indebted to you once again kind Sir. Absolutely spot on with your answers. Helps me no end. Are there any other quaint little quirks that I need to know about at this stage as Geeks Toy seems to do a lot more than I ever thought. And if I think of any in the meantime, can I call upon your expertise to guide me? Are there any PM's on here for example? Thanks my friend.

[merlin7]

Calling all the Lay The Field racing experts. New to this game so looking for some help from some kind person. I am able to get to the Multi Betting Tool and I can also place the lays. I don't seem to be able to get the lays to action as the race unfolds. Can anyone help with the settings? For example is the Stake box ticked Now or Today? Is the Liability box ticked Pre Off or Post Off? Am I missing anything further that I need to be ticked? All horses are ticked and all the odds are also ticked at 1.70. Any help would be great!

[Tanden]

Hi merlin7

I am no expert but hope the following helps...

You have asked "is the Stake box ticked Now or Today? Is the Liability box ticked Pre Off or Post Off?"

Actually, these are 6 different boxes.

The "Stake" box goes hand in hand with the "Liability" box - ie you can choose one or the other - if you click "Stake" you get to specify the stake and if you click "Liability" then you get to specify the liability.

The "Now", "Today", "Pre Off" and "Post Off" are another group of boxes with one other box labelled "Tomorrow".

You can pick any one of these boxes at a time.

Picking "Today" or "Tomorrow" allows you to specify an exact time when you want the bets to be placed (Geeks Toy will need to be kept open until the bets fire).

Picking "Pre Off" allows you to pick how long before the race start time you want the bets to be placed.

Picking "Post Off" allows you to pick how long after the race start time you want the bets to be placed.

Picking "Now" will place the bets straight away.

If you are laying the field at 1.70 and specifying a stake then choose the "Stake" box and choose the "Now" box., set the price to 1.7, set the stake and then put a tick in the top tick box.

Then, once you are happy all looks ok, press the "Bet" button - your bets should fire and enter the market immediately - if this is pre-off then you can then set them to Keep using the methods stated in the earlier posts.

[merlin7]

Thanks Tanden I now see the error of my ways. My settings have not been correct. I will give this a whirl and report back shortly. Many thanks for your kind help.

[merlin7]

Hi Tanden or anyone else who feels they can answer. Yes everything seems to work now OK. Except I cannot see anywhere where the Unmatched bets are displayed. I know the bets are placed OK as the lay liability is subtracted from my Total betfair bank. How can I now see where these are individually displayed? Cheers.

[Tanden]

It depends on which of the timing options you have selected when you press "Bet" in the Multi Bet Tool.

If you have selected "Now" then the bets will be placed immediately and will appear in the "Unmatched Bets" window just as if you had placed the bets manually.

If you have selected "Today", "Tomorrow", "Pre Off" or "Post Off" then the bets will be shown in the "Pending Bets" window.

[merlin7]

I have the Now box ticked, stake box ticked, the box for placing bets on all horses is ticked also. I still get no Unmatched bets showing.

[Tanden]

The process in full...

Open a market - at least have the ladder open so you can check the bets have fired

At this point you may want to check that all selections are priced above whatever you want to lay at so that you don't get any bets being matched before the event - unless, of course, you are happy for them to get matched straight away

Open the Multi Bet Tool
Choose "Back/Lay the field"
Choose "Stake"
Choose "Now"
Make sure the button just under "Now" says "Lay" and is coloured pink (if it says "Back" then click it to change it)
Enter the Price you want to lay at
Set the Stake you want to use
Put a tick in the tick box just to the left of the Price box (ticks all selections)
Press the "Bet" button

The bets will be placed immediately - and should appear in the "Unmatched Bets" window.

First, check the bets have fired by checking each selection in the ladder and scrolling down to see if there is an unmatched bet at the price you selected.

If there are no bets then something has failed and it is difficult to know what without screenshots.

If there are bets, then they will also appear in the "Unmatched Bets" window.

If you can not see the "Unmatched Bets" window then right click the main GT header, choose "Show / Hide" and make sure there is a tick next to "Unmatched Bets"