Cheltenham Trading

[LuckyYou]

Btw I have a question - when the season start in the end of March will the liqiudity on the regular races increase? Because despite the fact that I am rocking on Chelt I'm still strugling on the other non-sense low-liquid shit races? I can't trade there even if I am using 3 times lower stake that I am using on Chelt...

[bazbaz]

Btw I have a question - when the season start in the end of March will the liqiudity on the regular races increase? Because despite the fact that I am rocking on Chelt I'm still strugling on the other non-sense low-liquid shit races? I can't trade there even if I am using 3 times lower stake that I am using on Chelt...

Not really. If anything because there are more races during evening as well you get a little bit less liquidity per race as it gets spread out over all the races of the day (just my impression, dont have stats to back it up.) But then there are more races to push your totals up, and cos the races are shorter people have more time to bet before each one so theres less 'dead' time before the start of each race. At the start of the flat season liquidity is pretty poor with all the 2 year old races (people dont like betting on horses they havent seen) but after a few weeks it does pick up.

If you like cheltenham trading then you've got Aintree to look forward too in a few weeks.... and the big flat festivals work pretty much along the same lines (though not quite as liquid as cheltenham and a bit more movement - though theres been more movement at cheltenham this year than in previous years IMO)

[1/4 of a millionaire fund]

Btw I have a question - when the season start in the end of March will the liqiudity on the regular races increase? Because despite the fact that I am rocking on Chelt I'm still strugling on the other non-sense low-liquid shit races? I can't trade there even if I am using 3 times lower stake that I am using on Chelt...

Jeepers, what sort of stakes are you using !!! Cheltenham's a one off I'm afraid, Aintree and a few of the bigger flat meetings will come close but you're out of luck with the day to day bread and butter stuff.

[shadowninja]

Betfair fail?

[flok]

finally a good day for me too at chelt!
retrieved the big loss of 2 days ago and i'm up some coins. good hopes for tomorrow

[LuckyYou]

Just lost everything that I've earned on Chelt on the Poor Races only 12 Eur left that I'll probably lose on Wolv ... No comment

[LuckyYou]

Jeepers, what sort of stakes are you using !!! Cheltenham's a one off I'm afraid, Aintree and a few of the bigger flat meetings will come close but you're out of luck with the day to day bread and butter stuff.

100 EUR for 4-6, 75 EUR for 6-10, 50 EUR for 10 - 15 - I'm avoiding to trade favorites because I really lose everything there ... as you can see the stakes are very low indeed and i'm still strugling
Tripple that on Chelt... I'm sure I can increase the stakes on Chelt even more without a problem but I dont have the bank for that. I'll be prepared next year
Tommorrow I'll probably trade only Chelt - I think this would be the best to do...
Time to make some Football now Europe League on the way :P

[LuckyYou]

Trading Chelt is very similar to trading Football before the start. Maybe thats why its so easy for me and I am strugling so much on a regular races. I am not saying I am not making money - Yes I do, but I can't increase the stake that is what is pissing me off - I can't make more

[1/4 of a millionaire fund]

Trading Chelt is very similar to trading Football before the start. Maybe thats why its so easy for me and I am strugling so much on a regular races. I am not saying I am not making money - Yes I do, but I can't increase the stake that is what is pissing me off - I can't make more

I doubt it's down to the liquidity why you're struggling, the regular races can easily handle the stakes you're playing with.

You have to accept Cheltenham for what it is, a one off . It's not everyones cup of tea as the markets do behave slightly differently. Personally, I do OK but I can understand why some full timers don't enjoy it. Even though I might make 3 or more times what I usually make per meeting, over the year it'll have little impact on my earnings and you'd be much better off sorting out why you struggle on the usual stuff rather than trying to cash in at Cheltenham.

[LuckyYou]

I doubt it's down to the liquidity why you're struggling, the regular races can easily handle the stakes you're playing with.

You have to accept Cheltenham for what it is, a one off . It's not everyones cup of tea as the markets do behave slightly differently. Personally, I do OK but I can understand why some full timers don't enjoy it. Even though I might make 3 or more times what I usually make per meeting, over the year it'll have little impact on my earnings and you'd be much better off sorting out why you struggle on the usual stuff rather than trying to cash in at Cheltenham.

I know that Chelt is an exception. Just wanted not to be I'll need a lot more expirience for the regular races indeed...

[PC0845]

100 EUR for 4-6, 75 EUR for 6-10, 50 EUR for 10 - 15

Am I right in saying that your stake is about €400 / €500 liability on average?

Am I the only small fry here that would consider these as pretty high stakes ?

[Temujin]

Without having a clue and making some assumptions here (that there are still other meetings on around Cheltenham), would it be fair to suggest that there would be much easier money for new traders learning their craft by dismissing Cheltenham, and trading the other markets? The big players have been eyeing off Cheltenham probably for 12 months, so I suspect a lot of the other meetings are relatively snake free.?

Innocent question. Have only traded 4 UK races in about the last 4 months, and looked at 0 apart from them.

[bazbaz]

Unfortunately the big player's bots are still on the other races so there's no escaping.

Anyone making decent money using larger stakes at Cheltenham who doesn't normally would probably be well advised to have a few days off afterwards. It's a familiar story that some people will get a taste for making good money at cheltenham, get excited by this and then overstake in the crappy illiquid markets that follow in the days after cheltenham and get themselves into trouble

[Morgans Choice]

would it be fair to suggest that there would be much easier money for new traders learning their craft by dismissing Cheltenham, and trading the other markets?

Hi T,

from a personal point of view, that's fair to say. I made more at Wolverhampton last night than I have in three days at Cheltenham.

cheers, MC

[LuckyYou]

Am I right in saying that your stake is about €400 / €500 liability on average?

Am I the only small fry here that would consider these as pretty high stakes ?

Its very very small stakes. My stakes on football are between 700-1500...