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    Cheers Chuck

    Happy with the profit, just lost my nerve a bit which is required in the tennis.

    Have you ever given it a go?

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    Sure, I know of a few nifty tricks with the tennis not really the patience to sit and watch it all the time though.
    Edges are ten-a-penny, execution is everything

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    made the same little error again today but only once .... threw away £20 of profit by doing it

    good returns with £100 stakes though

    4-Feb-2015 21:42

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    Tennis: £125.58 Total P&L: £125.58

    Tennis Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets
    Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
    Tennis / Estrella Burgos v R Olivo : Match Odds 04-Feb-15 18:57 04-Feb-15 20:52 36.56
    Tennis / Karlovic v M Baghdatis : Match Odds 04-Feb-15 17:27 04-Feb-15 19:26 14.30
    Tennis / Montanes v Giraldo : Match Odds 04-Feb-15 16:57 04-Feb-15 18:42 14.87
    Tennis / M Granollers v J Melzer : Match Odds 04-Feb-15 13:20 04-Feb-15 14:59 18.42
    Tennis / Jaziri v Istomin : Match Odds 04-Feb-15 13:16 04-Feb-15 13:59 1.84
    Tennis / J Sousa v Kamke : Match Odds 04-Feb-15 11:00 04-Feb-15 13:09 39.59

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    Smashed it today then got annoyed and came back .... Lost £70 but recovered it in the next match

    I've upped my stakes today ..... Dwarfed by the £150,000 I just saw on the ladder after at least 10 bets of over £10,000 were on the losing side

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    could have been massive on Lorenzi but i just wanted to close off that -£79 as it takes me to the magic £1,000 in my account. All of my wins have been equal green on both sides .... maybe im losing a bit of profit to this but im ok with that

    05-Feb-2015 22:07

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    Tennis: £319.42 Total P&L: £319.42

    Tennis Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets
    Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
    Tennis / Falla v P Lorenzi : Match Odds 05-Feb-15 20:45 05-Feb-15 22:06 79.44
    Tennis / D Sela v Istomin : Match Odds 05-Feb-15 20:13 05-Feb-15 21:39 -79.06
    Tennis / Sijsling v A Mannarino : Match Odds 05-Feb-15 19:06 05-Feb-15 20:48 187.20
    Tennis / M Granollers v Dodig : Match Odds 05-Feb-15 16:00 05-Feb-15 18:44 59.29
    Tennis / Berankis v G Muller : Match Odds 05-Feb-15 13:54 05-Feb-15 16:11 72.55

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    Brilliant mate, glad your back on a roll! It's very encouraging for people like me to see what's possible.

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    Anything is possible in the tennis markets. If you don't have a genuine interest in horses I'd ditch it. There are too many sharks and robots out there manipulating it and it is luck.... You never know who is going to come and wipe 10 ticks with a £10,000 trade. If you are there strafing a way with £100 stakes and doing fine then suddenly scale up to £1000 stakes the market can't take it.

    Tennis the market can take £500 on a tin pot match in some clay court in Ecuador, in fact it absorbed a £150,000 bet tonight! You will hear all sorts about courtsiders etc ..... Accept it. Take the price before the game or serve and don't leave it on the ladder during the point.

    To win you need luck, like any market but you can reliably use probabilities to help you.

    You need to know the stats to trade it, you can easily buy these and have more stats than you will ever need.

    Let's just say 25% breaks on clay vs 18% on indoor hard courts ..... You know when you can rely on a serve and when to expect breaks. Combine that with someone who has a 50% 1st serve win rate it would be unwise to back them at 1.05 to close out a game in the third set on clay.

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    really smashed one game today and then lowered stakes in follwoing matches to avoid overtradinga nd trading with too much eurphoria. hardly traded the Granollers match but that was tasty.

    06-Feb-2015 20:58

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    Tennis: £370.50 Total P&L: £370.50

    Tennis Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets
    Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
    Tennis / M Granollers v Sijsling : Match Odds 06-Feb-15 18:20 06-Feb-15 20:39 54.72
    Tennis / Bellucci v Montanes : Match Odds 06-Feb-15 17:03 06-Feb-15 18:47 9.76
    Tennis / J Sousa v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 06-Feb-15 15:00 06-Feb-15 16:45 -10.43
    Tennis / Seppi v Berankis : Match Odds 06-Feb-15 13:54 06-Feb-15 15:55 20.34
    Tennis / Garcia-Lopez v Troicki : Match Odds 06-Feb-15 10:58 06-Feb-15 13:42 296.11

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    do you have any knowledge about players whose matches you trade ? I mean like what type of ground is their favourite and so on

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    Great job mate I'll have to keep an eye on tennis a lot more

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    I have an idea pre match who I think is going to win, how the game will go and the strengths of each player. I'm actually go to start and write this down and then keep a record of the key points that actually happen. I watch the live feed as well. To be honest I only trade for about 20 minutes as I'm at work and so it on the toilet most of the time!

    And I also don't think it is trading when you are in play on any market. It's gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvwooly View Post
    I have an idea pre match who I think is going to win, how the game will go and the strengths of each player. I'm actually go to start and write this down and then keep a record of the key points that actually happen. I watch the live feed as well. To be honest I only trade for about 20 minutes as I'm at work and so it on the toilet most of the time!

    And I also don't think it is trading when you are in play on any market. It's gambling.
    Its working for you mate you know lot about tennis

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    Most of the info you need is available on the Internet for free

    I'll put my neck on the line .....

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    Absolute disaster ,... Everything went against me

    -278.45 for Saturday

    Took today off. Was actually quite nice not sitting staring at ladders all the time.

    Is trading actually worth the lost time and mental effort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvwooly View Post
    Absolute disaster ,... Everything went against me

    -278.45 for Saturday

    Took today off. Was actually quite nice not sitting staring at ladders all the time.

    Is trading actually worth the lost time and mental effort?
    Well no boss to answer too, not have to drive to work place, no long work hours, imho trading worth the time, so much freedom you can have

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvwooly View Post
    Is trading actually worth the lost time and mental effort?
    not only time and effort.. some input from all of us for your question:

    http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/showth...ing-on-betfair

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    Unlucky DV, its only a small dent though on your results, your first big loss since you're 'comeback'. Surely you don't expect to win every day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvwooly View Post
    Is trading actually worth the lost time and mental effort?
    If it's going well, yes, if not, no. I win more often than I lose, but my losses are bigger than my wins, 2 losses in a row can be mentally draining. You're still showing fantastic results. Only trade again when you're in the right mindset.

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    next week im back in the game

    always good to break when you feel the red mist

    i trierd tgo predict results rather than watching and reacting, was very annoyed with myself but over it now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvwooly View Post
    next week im back in the game

    always good to break when you feel the red mist

    i trierd tgo predict results rather than watching and reacting, was very annoyed with myself but over it now
    Good luck mate, i've got into the same rut, overconfidence, i had a huge tilt today and somehow managed to survive.

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