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    We are seeing increased case numbers and new record numbers of cases but it is impossible to compare them to the previous highs seen in March as we just weren't testing then like we are now. We are currently seeing about 7,000 cases a day reported from the testing which isn't the full picture obviously but despite being a higher daily figure than in March it is thought cases are much lower as the real March figures were around 100,000 cases a day.

    More regional tightening of rules are happening, I think I heard something like 25% of the England population is under tighter restrictions, the majority of Wales and Scotland are, not sure about Northern Ireland as we rarely hear on the news about NI.

    There is increasing push back to the measures and especially the increasing of rules, especially given that deaths and hospitalisation rates remain relatively low, though compared to Australia they would be said to be very high.

    The Government got a very strong telling off in Parliament yesterday for basically being to keen with using their emergency powers and rather than have a vote which the Government was sure to loose due to so many of the Government's own MP's rebelling against them they fudged a deal where they have said if they need to make significant changes again that it will go before MP's to debate and vote on unless it is urgent. So basically the same as before as who decides what is significant etc for example today we have had several million more people told they can't mix households anywhere but there was no vote on it.

    The furlough schemes are winding down so job losses are increasing which is feeding into the pushback against the rules as before if you were still getting paid to not work all was good but now reality is hitting a lot of people they are waking up to what it really means.

    Despite this house prices and sales are at all time highs with prices rising significantly but the FTSE100 is not. I gave up a long time ago trying to predict such things! More chance of me getting the 1, 2, 3 in the Melbourne Cup!

    We have been graced again yesterday by a 10 Downing Street press conference after the previous weeks press conference just by the scientists didn't go down to well when they tried to scare everyone with a chart that said we would have 500,000 cases a day if we don't act before the end of October. So now we are supposedly going to be back to fairly regular press conferences so that they can keep reminding us all of the need to follow the rules etc.

    Scotland I believe has never stopped having the Daily Press Conferences!

    So overall, large parts of the country are now in increased restriction zones, many areas though have little if any Covid. People are pushing back and getting fed up. Everyone thinks they could have dealt with it better and knows best!

    A useful link for you might be the Government stats page that they update each day and has a lot of information, charts etc:
    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

    And a link to the Twitter Thread from 10 Downing Street of the charts that were used in yesterday's Number 10 press conference that show how things are changing with Covid in the UK:
    https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/...36881192423425

    If you like to listen to Podcasts, the week day podcast by the BBC NewsCast team gives a good summary/discussion most days of the current situation/changes etc along with other news happening in the UK in a 30 minute or so podcast. It is available for free on all podcast apps and via the website:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05299nl

    Good luck with the punting this weekend!

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    Many thanks PDC for your comprehensive update re Covid-19 in the UK.
    The increase in house prices and the slide in the stockmarket is also similarly reflected here in Oz. There seems to be no sensible reason why house prices are increasing here except that we do have strong interest from buyers domiciled in Victoria. The house next door sold a week ago for an above market price to a Victorian who bought it off the internet listing. Perhaps its a sign of what will happen in Victoria once the lockdowns and travel restrictions are removed!
    There is a push back to Governments here that are trying to be super cautious with the relaxation of rules.....most just want to get back to normality and frankly don't see the necessity of having restrictions, particularly in Queensland where there are only 6 covid cases and none of those are serious.
    The announcement that Donald Trump and Melania Trump have now both contracted covid is a potential game changer in some respects, but indications here is that life will continue on as normal as most seem to rationalise this to their campaigning activities and to the fact that they are in a vulnerable age group.
    Stay safe and hope you find plenty of winners this weekend.

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    Spring is here and with it comes our best racing events. Caulfield has the Toorak Stakes and the Herbert Power Stakes which have attracted quality of the highest standard. Randwick also has a quality program with the Spring Champion Stakes a highlight.
    Of course the news that dominates here is covid related with signs that borders are slowly opening up. It will be a while before we get back to normal here and even longer if you factor in international travel however the signs are positive. On a personal note I have had 18 bets to date this week with 5 wins, 6 seconds, 2 thirds and the rest missed having their photos included in the camera finish.
    We have now gone into that time zone known as daylight saving where the east coast of Australia has different time zones. Queensland don't change their time pieces however the rest of the eastern seaboard are advanced by one hour.
    The first race on the program here starts at Caulfield on Saturday afternoon where they have a ten race card at 12.15 AEDT which
    converts to 3.15am Saturday London Time.
    The last race is at Ascot at 20.38, which is 11.38am London time on Saturday
    Please stay safe, wear a mask where you cant social distance and stay healthy.


    CAULFIELD:
    R1 no 12 Fake Love Won $5.50
    R2 no 3 Swat's That Won $3
    R3 no 6 Windstorm Won
    R4 no 4 Felicia 2nd
    R5 no 10 Diamond Effort 2nd
    R6 no 6 Russian Camelot 2nd
    R7 no 1 Hungry Heart
    R8 no 1 Tagaloa
    R9 no 15 Buffalo River 2nd is the late mail
    R10 no 3 Orderofthegarter

    RANDWICK:
    R2 no 2 Doubtland.. 3rd..No 1 Wild Ruler Won is the late mail
    R4 no 13 Archania 2nd
    R5 no 2 Peltzer Won $3
    R6 no 1 Alligator Blood 2nd
    R7 no 13 Montefilia....Won $3...no 3 Love Tap 4th is the late mail
    R9 no 11 Plaquette 2nd


    DOOMBEN:
    R1 no 1 Magic Conqueror 2nd
    R2 no 3 Shaluna 4th
    R3 no 1 Mishani Operator
    R7 no 2 Le Palmier 4th
    R8 no 1 The Odyssey 2nd

    ASCOT:
    R4 no 10 Truly Great Won
    R5 no 4 Inspirational Girl Won $3
    R9 no 6 This'll Testya


    Cheers 'n' Beers


    JOKE:
    An elderly Sydney lady in her early 80’s from the Eastern Suburbs did her weekly shopping trip and upon returning to her car found four males in the act of leaving with her vehicle. She dropped her shopping bags and drew her handgun, proceeding to scream at the top of her lungs, “I have a gun, and I know how to use it! Get out of the car!”. The four men didn’t wait for a second threat. They jumped out and ran like mad. The lady, somewhat shaken, then proceeded to load her shopping bags into the back of the car and got into the driver’s seat. She was so shaken that she could not get her key into the ignition. She tried and tried, and then she realized why. It was for the same reason she had wondered why there was a football, a Frisbee and two 12-packs of beer in the front seat. A few minutes later, she found her own car parked four or five spaces farther down. She loaded her bags into the car and drove to the police station to report her mistake. The sergeant to whom she told the story couldn’t stop laughing. He pointed to the other end of the counter, where four pale men were reporting a carjacking by a mad, elderly woman described as white, less than five feet tall, glasses, curly white hair, and carrying a large handgun. No charges were filed. The moral of the story is this:
    If you’re going to have a senior moment… make sure it is memorable.
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    Saturday's racing in Oz this week includes one of our best time honoured races on the calendar in the running of the Caulfield Cup. This is a race with a long history as it was first run in 1879 over a mile and a half and tomorrow it be slightly shorter at 2400m in keeping with the modern day metric system which Australia adopted in 1979. Favourite is the well performed local horse Verry Elleegant which has edged out the English invader Anthony Van Dyck as the latter drew the visitors barrier in 21. The race will be the highlight of the days program.
    There are two subjects that have been well aired on here apart from Horse Racing and they are matters to do with Covid-19 and Betfairs so called "delay".
    Here are updates on both subjects:
    COVID-19. The Sorry saga of Hotel Quarantine Security in Victoria.
    Australia's death rate from Covid is just 904 of which 816 are from the State of Victoria. Of these 816 deaths in Victoria the average age of those that died was 85. So it doesn't take Einstein to work out here that there are many cases where it was simply assumed that Covid was the cause when the reality was that it was a multitude of other factors at play here which are common when you are dealing with folk in aged care environments.
    There has been a Judicial Enquiry in Victoria into why the bulk of the deaths in Victoria appear to have been caused by the virus that escaped from those who were in Quarantined in two Victorian Hotels in the heart of Melbourne. The Enquiry to date has cost $6m and has failed to answer the simple question of who approved the issuance of a Security Contract to a firm called Unified Security for three months at a cost of $30m. The firm incidentally was not on Victoria's list of approved clients. Now think about this. Here we have a decision made on the run to give a mammoth contract to an unknown firm. The firm on hearing of their windfall immediately emailed all of their employees and prospective employees that they must undertake a 10 minute induction program (tick and flick) exercise and once they had done that they could then turn up for work.
    We now know through contact tracing that the resultant debacle in terms of security was the major reason for Victoria's covid failure and why Victoria's death figures are sky high in comparision to other States.
    Of course the sad story here is that Victoria is still in serious lockdown and the economy has been devastated...all apparently because of a dodgy security contract.

    BETFAIR DELAY: This subject has been well covered by recent contributions by PDC and Temujin so if you want the history here just scroll back to pages 39 and 40 and read their thoughts and contributions to this "story".
    I note that the so called Betfair delay has been raised once more by the Twitter twitterers with suggestions that here in Australia the delay in certain areas is as much as 7 to 8 seconds. The concern of course is that this opens a window of opportunity for unscrupulous folk to place a bet. Think what tennis attendees were doing during critical match points until the authorities woke up to what was happening and banned them. Also we know that scouts/observers/opportunists were posted at race meetings here with laptops or mobile devices that could post a bet just as the race began or in running. If a horse missed the start, or a leader dropped off the pace up the home straight then one could take advantage of such if you were quick. Betfair have once again confirmed that all races are closed off within one second of the jump and the issue is not at their end. Jump on Twitter if you want to know more.

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    Highlight this Saturday is the Caulfield Cup run over 2400m for prizemoney of AUD $5m.
    Its one of a handful of major races in Australia and attracts visitors (sometimes referred to as raiders!) from around the globe. Of course this year is an exception as Covid-19 has halted plans for many, however my first pick in the race is an English raider named Anthony Van Dyck, who is a classy racehorse and is expected to give this a big shake despite drawing the visitors barrier in 21.
    I'm sure racing enthusiasts domiciled in the UK are familiar with his accomplishments.
    Of course there are other races around on Saturday besides the Caulfield Cup with the most important being the running of the Everest at Randwick. Prizemoney is a mere $15m AUD....Yes thats right, fifteen million Australian dollars is up for grabs for a race that will be run and won in just over one minute. Incredible purse for a sprinting race!! And also at Randwick is the Kosciuszko, also over 1200m, and this time they race for AUD$1.3m.
    On a personal note this week I have had 21 bets resulting in 9 winners, 5 seconds, 2 thirds, and 5 unplaced.
    First race on Saturday will be at Caulfield at 11.15am Brisbane time.
    This converts to 2.15am London time.
    The last race will be run at Ascot at 7.05pm Brisbane time which converts to
    10.05am London time.
    Here are the selections for Saturday's racing which will be updated once the scratchings are known and the late mail is discovered.
    Hope your day is a winning one and you are staying safe from the unfriendly virus that seems to permeate our lives daily.

    CAULFIELD:
    R2 no 1 Yes Baby Yes.. 2nd...No 2 Rainbel 3rd is the late mail
    R3 no 2 Osamu 2nd
    R4 no 2 Albarado.. Won $5.25..no 10 Lets Kracka Deal 2nd is a good chance here
    R5 no 3 Starelle
    R6 no 3 Fituese. 2nd..No 2 California Zimbol Won $4 is the late mail
    R7 no 6 Alfa Oro
    R8 no 9 Windstorm
    R9 no 1 Anthony Van Dyck..2nd..thought no 9 Finche was value each way at $12. Put in no 14 Dalasan for the trifecta
    R10 no 4 Felicia 3rd


    DOOMBEN:
    R1 no 1 Sugar Boom Won $2.20
    R2 no 1 Mass Destruction Won $3.50
    R4 no 1 Fastnet Cyclone 3rd
    R5 no 4 Oh Five Glory 2nd
    R7 no 1 Glenall
    R8 no 6 Royal Hale Won $4.80
    R9 no 10 Plenty is an each way chance @ $16 Scr



    RANDWICK:
    R1 no 6 Kalashikov
    R4 no 2 Joviality....No 1 Forbidden Love Won $8 is a definite chance here
    R5 no 3 Redouble 2nd is a rough hope at $31 or better
    R6 no 1 Deprive 4th
    R7 no 1 Nature Strip
    R8 no 2 Star of the Seas
    R9 no 7 Paths of Glory


    ASCOT:
    R3 no 1 Sassy Trader 3rd
    R4 no 8 Notorious One
    R8 no 6 Massimo 3rd

    LAY BETS:
    R9 no 7 Verry Eleegant Won $5.50, Lay bet Lost


    Cheers n Beers

    JOKE:
    A woman, cranky because her husband was late coming home again, decided to leave a note, saying, “I’ve had enough and have left you. Don’t bother coming after me.” Then she hid under the bed to see his reaction. After a short while, the husband comes home and she could hear him in the kitchen before he comes into the bedroom. She could see him walk towards the dresser and pick up the note. After a few minutes, he wrote something on it before picking up the phone and calling someone. “She’s finally gone. Yeah I know, it is about time. I’m coming to see you. Put on that sexy French nightie. I love you. Can’t wait to see you. We’ll do all the naughty things you like.” He hung up, grabbed his keys, and left. She heard the car drive off as she came out from under the bed, seething with rage and with tears in her eyes. She grabbed the note to see what he wrote….
    “I can see your feet. We’re out of bread and milk, be back in five minutes.”
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    Good luck this weekend with your bets and thanks for your various updates! It is crazy that Melbourne is under such restrictions where as in the UK we have a country arguing over much more lax restrictions when it has just been announced that we have around 30-40,000 cases a day according to the various surveys (the daily testing figures don't give a proper picture, they show around 15-20,000 +'ves a day). Not that it is worth anything but my view is the UK is in for a very messy winter and it won't be very pretty, every area seems to want to do its own thing and what everyone else wants to do is wrong. Chuck in Brexit very much on the horizon and it could get very messy!

    Hopefully the weekend's racing will be a happy distraction with great action both in Australia and the UK at Champions Day.

    Best of luck!

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    Firstly, our best wishes go to all of you in the UK that are enduring the hardships that the Covid-19 virus has thrust upon you. Now that winter has arrived, which unfortunately the virus seems to prefer, the limitations to your basic freedoms and rights of movement will be tested. Lets hope that the Oxford University who are world leaders in the race to provide us all with a proven and thoroughly tested vaccine is successful before Santa arrives.
    Secondly, racing in Australia marches on towards the pinnacle race on our calendar which is the Melbourne Cup run on the first Tuesday of November. This Saturday sees the running of the WFA Cox Plate which is arguably one of our top handful of races on the annual calendar. There wont be a crowd there on course to watch the event this year as Melbourne is still in serious lockdown despite the nil death rate of late and the very low daily case rate of around 6. Yes when you look at other areas in the world its crazy to think Melbourne Victoria is still in lockdown.
    On a personal note I have had 23 bets this week for 9 winners,4 seconds 3 thirds and 7 simply weren't quick enough to bother the judge.
    This Saturday the First Race will be at Moonee Valley commencing at 11.40 AEST which converts to 2.40am in London.
    The Last race this Saturday will be at Ascot commencing at 7.45pm AEST which converts to 10.45am in London UK.
    Please stay safe and I trust the punting gods will be kind to you with your weekend investments.

    MOONEE VALLEY:
    R1 no 1 Ancestry Won
    R2 no 7 Son of Mercury
    R3 no 7 Bella Nipotina 2nd
    R4 no 2 Ecumenical 2nd
    R5 no 2 Greyful Glamour...late mail is no 3 Sovereign Award Won $3.30


    RANDWICK:
    R1 no 5 Total Babe 4th
    R3 no 3 The Bopper Won $5.40
    R4 no 8 Criaderas 2nd
    R6 no 1 Peltzer Won $2.80
    R8 no 5 Hilo Won $3


    DOOMBEN:
    R1 no 6 Niedorp Won
    R2 no 2 Rollwiththeflow
    R3 no 2 Ziemba
    R6 no 9 Glitter Strip 4th
    R10 no 4 Le Palmier Race Abandoned

    ASCOT:
    R2 no 11 Doowahdiddy Late Scr
    R7 no 4 Clairvoyance Scratched.
    R8 no 8 Celebrity Queen 2nd
    R9 no 5 Cuban Twist...3rd...no 8 Great Waters is a chance at $18.

    LAY BETS:
    R9 no 11 Russian Camelot Ran 3rd. Lay Bet Won

    Cheers n Beers

    JOKE:
    A woman walks into a Pharmacy and asked the Pharmacist if he had any cyanide. The Pharmacist a little taken aback with the request says, “Why in the world would you need cyanide?” The woman then explained she needed it to poison her husband. The Pharmacist’s eyes got big and he said, “Lord, have mercy — I can’t give you cyanide to kill your husband. That’s against the law! I’ll lose my license, they’ll throw you and me in jail. Just leave and forget you ever came here before I call the police. The woman reached into her purse and pulled out a picture of her husband in bed with the Pharmacist’s wife. The pharmacist looked at the picture and replied, “well, now.
    You didn’t tell me you had a prescription.”
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    Firstly our thoughts and prayers go to all of you who are experiencing lockdowns as a result of Covid-19.In the State of Victoria in Australia, residents there were locked down for a total of 111 days. Most of us would go stir crazy after just a couple of days so you can imagine what it must have been like for Victorians to experience what is to date the world's longest covid-19 lockdown. We are less than a week away from Australia's no 1 race in the Melbourne Cup but the Government has ruled that only horses and jockeys will be allowed on course. Interestingly the same Government has ruled that 25,000 residents can go to the Boxing Day cricket match. The world in Victoria is simply crazy.
    On a personal note I have had 15 bets to date this week resulting in 6 winners,4 seconds, one third and the rest didn't make it in time to worry the judge.
    Highlight this Saturday will be the Group One Victoria Derby which is run over 2,500m. The drifting favourite is Young Werther at around $4.
    This Saturday sees the first race commence at Flemington at 11.40 AEST which is 1.40am London time.
    The last race will be run at Ascot at 20.35pm AEST which is 10.35am London time.
    The early selections will go up shortly and these will be updated before the first race once scratchings and late mail are discovered.
    Hope your day is a good one and please stay safe and healthy.






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    DOOMBEN:

    ASCOT:

    LAY BETS:

    Cheers n Beers

    JOKE:
    Why should you never believe a clock?
    Because its usually second hand information!!
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