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  • doubleback
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    Consider it done...........It is called "In-Running Graph"

    Hope it works for ya.........

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  • PC0845
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    Pleas mr doubleback plz help

    Mr Doubleback, any chance you'd upoad the profile for the ir videos below to the cloud and let a struggling muppet sutdy it ?

    I have a sneaky feeling it may also be useful in the doggie pre race markets.

    Cheeky request but if you don't ask ....

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  • BruceLee1973
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    Originally posted by ron View Post
    How did you get on?
    Not been doing them much at the moment ron mega busy and all that.I did manage to check crans race timer out last night which is a great tool for in running.My next days of are tue wed so will hopefully put some on the forum then.

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  • ron
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    Originally posted by BruceLee1973 View Post
    Thanks for the replys everyone last day in work tomoz so hopefully the day after can do some in running choices so everyone can have a laugh might put them past ron first.
    How did you get on?

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  • PC0845
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    Originally posted by doubleback View Post
    The strategy that I use is quite a simple one, I know it may fall on deaf ears (Colonel Custard) but I just look out for crossovers in the Moving Averages as this cuts out a great deal of the market 'noise', it is a slightly different strategy than the one that I use from Pre-Race but it works for me, as long as you keep your liability in check and can cut the losses then the rewards are high. I am a bit of an admirer of your knowledge of form btw...
    What are your moving average periods for in running (how many seconds for the longer and how many for the shorter) ?

    What are they for pre race ?

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  • doubleback
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    Originally posted by ron View Post
    I watched the videos last night, dont have a problem as such each to their own and all that, tbh iwatched what was happening on the ladder, where money was etc and rarely noticed the graphs. and probably would have made the same moves as you did.

    The strategy that I use is quite a simple one, I know it may fall on deaf ears (Colonel Custard) but I just look out for crossovers in the Moving Averages as this cuts out a great deal of the market 'noise', it is a slightly different strategy than the one that I use from Pre-Race but it works for me, as long as you keep your liability in check and can cut the losses then the rewards are high. I am a bit of an admirer of your knowledge of form btw...

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  • ron
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    I watched the videos last night, dont have a problem as such each to their own and all that, tbh iwatched what was happening on the ladder, where money was etc and rarely noticed the graphs. and probably would have made the same moves as you did.

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  • custard
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    Nice picture ! I think I'll grow that moustache again. I'm sure that you will have noticed that I am holding a "stop loss" .

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  • doubleback
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    Originally posted by custard View Post
    Sorry, looked at the video for a couple of minutes and turned it off. I couldn't possibly trade which such a confusing and muddled setup. I don't need a graph to tell me that a price has gone up or come down. I always look to simplify problems and not confuse them by having additional distractions. If graphs are of use to you, I'm happy for you.

    I find it amazing that very large numbers of people clamoured for graphs/charts yet hardly anybody said that they were any good. I thought that too few people had expressed gratitude to the Geek for his work. I never wanted them and nothing has been written anywhere that convinces me that they are anything but useless. I am prepared to change my mind if you can show me a graph which predicts where a market is going rather than simply telling where it has been.

    I cannot imagine that I am going to change my own views. I am totally happy for others to use them if they wish. It's all down to personal choice.
    There we go, mention charts and along comes Colonel Custard, self appointed leader of the Anti Chartist League (A.C.L)!!! I didn't expect you to take the bait Nige!! ha ha ha! or lol lol lol!!

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  • custard
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    Sorry, looked at the video for a couple of minutes and turned it off. I couldn't possibly trade which such a confusing and muddled setup. I don't need a graph to tell me that a price has gone up or come down. I always look to simplify problems and not confuse them by having additional distractions. If graphs are of use to you, I'm happy for you.

    I find it amazing that very large numbers of people clamoured for graphs/charts yet hardly anybody said that they were any good. I thought that too few people had expressed gratitude to the Geek for his work. I never wanted them and nothing has been written anywhere that convinces me that they are anything but useless. I am prepared to change my mind if you can show me a graph which predicts where a market is going rather than simply telling where it has been.

    I cannot imagine that I am going to change my own views. I am totally happy for others to use them if they wish. It's all down to personal choice.

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  • doubleback
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    Originally posted by BruceLee1973 View Post
    Can you or does anyone make money In play without live pics,be it just looking at prices or form reading or watching ATR and so on just curious????

    I made a withdrawal the other day, I left a tenner in my account and went In-Running with it.

    I was trading just using the graphs (one for Custard me thinks), here are the videos...........

    The obvious mistake in part 1 is that I put 2009 instead of 2011 in the title clip, doh!!

    Results are shown at the end of Part 2.........

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  • BruceLee1973
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    Thanks for the replys everyone last day in work tomoz so hopefully the day after can do some in running choices so everyone can have a laugh might put them past ron first.

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  • ron
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    Originally posted by ron View Post
    Timeform radio will have some guy on air tommorow neil Munrow who is an inrunning guru by all acccounts, someone asked for advice via email and they stated that this guy is on and to direct questions to him, could be interesting.
    Guy on timeform is talking a lot of sense, has been watching markets for years reads form, put one up on the 7.40 race backed to lay, his lay was sitting at 2.04 (uses this most of the time) but the lowest the selection went was 2.08 seen that happen loads of times..

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  • wagonmastergeneral
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    Originally posted by Temujin View Post
    If you are a pure numbers man such as myself, then not too much point going in without pics.
    Fair enough Tem, there are lots of purely numerical patterns repeating themselves tho, a bit like a computer game. e.g. playing the spread in the 100 > 1000 range with £2 stakes.

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  • Temujin
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    I got onto a couple of nice ones even with the delay to Aus the other day on the UK races. When they are travelling well, it is easy to spot even with the delay. I got on just as they bounced right down to where they should have been..
    By live pics I assume you aren't simply talking about vision, which has been mentioned over and over is a delayed feed, especially digital feeds.
    Other than that, I have traded in play simply by radio when my Austar was still waiting to be installed. Certainly not as profitable as with pictures, but kept me entertained, and from what I can recall in front a little.

    Really depends on your strategy. As suggested, form guys don't really need live pics, or pics at all, but pics certainly help in all situations from where I sit. If you are a pure numbers man such as myself, then not too much point going in without pics. Play your strengths. Mine is reading the race (still only benching 20 with it, but stronger than form reading etc... ) and associating that with odds....
    I could care less how much it got beaten by last start and what its odds started out. The best travelling horse is still that whether it is 150/1 or 2/1...

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