Milivoje

[valve]

These days big liquidity only in EURO markets, some values found for brazilian, argentinian, finish and swedish leagues .

[milivoje]

yeaa, but is liquidity actually getting bigger lets say in english footbal, or is practically the same now for some years?

[milivoje]

I am thinking to maybe give a try at horses..i know its f*****g the hardest thing to learn and i know all the facts never go inplay, just practise practise practise, probably for few years and then you can expect some resuts if you are a good student i know i will probably last for 3 days and than say f**k you horses hehehe but i stil wanna give it a go...i wanna ask you guys on something, i went by tradepedia read things abot horses ect. but i wanna ask you, if i wanna just scalp, is it possible that you just get, after time, the felling for the markets, by just observing the odds, and try be a part of it ofcourse with pennies, couse what baggers me, is that with sports like tenis football cricket, ...you can actually see how the market reacts and so on, but with horses is just money movement..so as far as i see it, i dont think i will be able to get after a lot of practise the feeling for it, or am i wrong?? hope you guys can give me some cheering words..as for now i dont know what the heck i am doing and i am just trying to see some movements, lets say swings, and then i am trying to scalp a little. I am doing this not on the favourite but on the second horse, becouse there is ess money and market moves slower.. hope to get some opinions..

[milivoje]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/42378026/D...Naked-Buddhism

[milivoje]

i thaught i had an eureka moment on horses! ofc i probably didnt i jsut had a feeling at one race i was just flowing with the market hehehe didnt get that felling for the next few races than hahah so probably it wasnt an eureka moment! I must, if i want to learn horse trading, probably learn more deeply some basic stuff, than just making 2 e bets on it with slow losses in the market..well this year i will probably just stick with football..my goal..now i am at 300 next gol 1000!! go go go go go go meee yeaaa i love to chat with my self in my own thread. (for those who think i am a lunatic i am not ..at least i hope so.. hehehe ) start the football season now uefa!!! no no i will wait till august ofc, for the premier league to start, or olypic games if i will be able to watch them..well going to seaside now for quite some time!! HOT BABES HERE I COME

[RManPT]

I have more than 5000 markets traded in horses and still have hard times although I believe that I'm almost there...Once upon a time, about a year ago I had an eureka moment and was able to profit 900€ in one day from a 50€ bank... Well I thought I had... accumulated losses for quite a time after that before I stopped and realised that what I had was a "in the zone" moment.

I love horse racing trading but it is hard to swim with the sharks in this type of volatile markets...requires training, thousands of markets, watch thousands of races (if going to trade IR) and hard cold discipline.

On the other hand never successfully traded soccer... too slow for me and is no match for 150+ horse racing markets a day all year long.

[milivoje]

yes would say that als for my self it was in the zone moment well that was quite a big moment to come from 50 to 900 hehe well i think it would also probably bore me to pieces so i think i will just stay with soccer, less boring, and its nice you actually get to watch some nice matches, ofc watching some boring game is less nice but actually there is like 4-8 matches in the weekends that are nice to trade..must now these days get some other sport programs, sky spots or something, so that i have more games to watch...must check my tv operator how that is possible..

[milivoje]

I was watching blacksmith working..he asked me " Do you think, that i am always doing the same thing?" I said yes. " You are wrong, every strike with a hammer has different power, sometimes greater, sometimes smaller. But i learnt that after repeating the same gesture over and over again. Untill i one day said to my self; let the hand do the work by it self."

[milivoje]

season of football almost started now my goal to come from 300 to 1000! When i reach it i will be really happy

[valve]

Originally Posted by milivoje

I am thinking to maybe give a try at horses..

Interesting, couple of times I have turned from soccer to horses, but always turned back, horses markers are very fast for me and I can't see anything to catch on, also feel more stress. But for each of us is convenient something else .

Originally Posted by milivoje

season of football almost started now my goal to come from 300 to 1000! When i reach it i will be really happy

Good luck!

[nevermind]

Originally Posted by milivoje

now my goal to come from 300 to 1000! When i reach it i will be really happy

I bet 500 when you reach 1000 you want 2000 to be happy...

... Oh Happy Days ...

Good luck anyway!!

[milivoje]

Hehehe well i meant by it that it will be good to reach my new goal..but i am happy also now, couse i think my trading is good, my biggest goal ofcourse is to be whole year profitable and build a big bank, few thousand would be really nice. By happy days you probably mean the beggining of being profitable couse you are preety euphoric that you can do it, in time probably you get really bored am i right?

[StuT]

Hi Milivoje,

What markets do you trade in on the football, 2.5 goals, LTD, etc ?

[nevermind]

Originally Posted by milivoje

By happy days you probably mean the beggining of being profitable couse you are preety euphoric that you can do it, in time probably you get really bored am i right?

I think every day should be a happy day! At least that's what I look for, whatever I do.

For me, trading should be fun. Even if I trade quite a lot, it's still fun. Except of course when I suffer a big loss..., but then, that is the real test: How long do I need to be happy again?

[milivoje]

Originally Posted by nevermind

I think every day should be a happy day! At least that's what I look for, whatever I do.

For me, trading should be fun. Even if I trade quite a lot, it's still fun. Except of course when I suffer a big loss..., but then, that is the real test: How long do I need to be happy again?

Ofcourse, it is far more to life than trading and money, but it feels nice to set goals to yourself and achieve them. That is what brings the joy, to challenge yourself and see if you are capable of achieving it. It is the path not the goal, that matters, say the whisemen

[milivoje]

Originally Posted by StuT

Hi Milivoje,

What markets do you trade in on the football, 2.5 goals, LTD, etc ?

I trade match odds, under odds, sometimes correct score.. dont know what is ltd

[milivoje]

Finally the season has started

Soccer: €29.95 Total P&L: €29.95

Soccer Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (€)
Soccer / Man City v Southampton : Over/Under 5.5 Goals 19-Aug-12 16:00 19-Aug-12 18:06 0.32
Soccer / Man City v Southampton : Over/Under 4.5 Goals 19-Aug-12 16:00 19-Aug-12 17:46 1.71
Soccer / Man City v Southampton : Over/Under 3.5 Goals 19-Aug-12 16:00 19-Aug-12 17:38 -2.25
Soccer / Man City v Southampton : Over/Under 2.5 goals 19-Aug-12 16:00 19-Aug-12 17:34 2.08
Soccer / Wigan v Chelsea : Over/Under 4.5 Goals 19-Aug-12 13:30 19-Aug-12 15:22 0.53
Soccer / Wigan v Chelsea : Over/Under 3.5 Goals 19-Aug-12 13:30 19-Aug-12 15:22 4.52
Soccer / Wigan v Chelsea : Over/Under 2.5 goals 19-Aug-12 13:30 19-Aug-12 15:22 -1.58
Soccer / Newcastle v Tottenham : Over/Under 3.5 Goals 18-Aug-12 17:30 18-Aug-12 19:29 0.00
Soccer / Newcastle v Tottenham : Over/Under 2.5 goals 18-Aug-12 17:30 18-Aug-12 19:14 3.93
Soccer / Newcastle v Tottenham : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 18-Aug-12 17:30 18-Aug-12 19:10 1.81
Soccer / Arsenal v Sunderland : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 18-Aug-12 15:00 18-Aug-12 16:58 1.66
Soccer / Arsenal v Sunderland : Over/Under 2.5 goals 18-Aug-12 15:00 18-Aug-12 16:58 1.68
Soccer / Arsenal v Sunderland : Correct Score 18-Aug-12 15:00 18-Aug-12 16:54 4.15
Soccer / Leeds v Wolves : Over/Under 2.5 goals 18-Aug-12 12:45 18-Aug-12 14:47 4.34
Soccer / Leeds v Wolves : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 18-Aug-12 12:45 18-Aug-12 14:47 7.05

[milivoje]

big loss for me today, 60e on liverpool game, i was at 390euros now back to 330...it is ofcourse heart breakening couse you know week or two of work went for nothing, but one more lesson i think to really learn to accept losses, couse unfortunately they will surely come again.. strange how mind works, you are devestated, you know your trading is good but you still feel pretty bad when a loss come. Must watch some motivation videos, probably no more trading for today i think, maybe that is better it is a pretty hard game making money from trading, still must get to my new goal 1000 as i said! But i am not so much affected from my loss as i was in the past that is still good, for 5minutes i was angry walking in my appartment than i just smiled and said to my self dont worry be happy and listened to bobby mcferen! hehe

[milivoje]

just pass 400euros and what happened, betfair freezes and i get struck by a goa boom after the goal another f*****g betfair mugs, how can they afford to just freeze? back at 300 now hm....really having big struggles..

[valve]

Not good to hear. Last API down I lost also money, since this lesson I can't use my whole bank anymore.