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    Is there Gran'pas here?

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    How abt 18- ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PesceLesso View Post
    How abt 18- ?
    They are not allowed to bet yet i suppose

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    Well according to Betfair rules its illegal to bet if you don't have 18. With their KYC program its very hard for someone under 18 to bet there, I am not saying its impossible with moms ID for example, but we have to stick to the rules so even if there 18- they should cover themselves - I don't want any troubles for them

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    It appears that I am among the youngest here. Strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyYou View Post
    It appears that I am among the youngest here. Strange
    Nope , is not strange

    Trading , in my opinion is strictly corelated with gambling
    Not all young people like gambling , most of the youngs want womens , disco , drinks , drugs ...... not patience and concentration
    After a while people think diferent , think about money more and more so i think is normal to dont find a lot of youngs here

    Gambling aka trading is not for everyone , look at me , i'm on green on trading , i know i can make money on trading , but the dose of gambling what i see around push me out of this

    I prefer to do other thinks , trading is a source of money but at my stage i will trade more for fun

    Dont forget trading is gambling , not all people are willing to gambling his money , whend they understand this , most are out

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    I agree. Trading is gambling(betting). But gambling brings more profit then trading, yes, trading is more safe strategy, but with small profit.
    And I think simple betting is better on long distance then trading. Simply you must bet cleverer then usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo View Post
    I agree. Trading is gambling(betting). But gambling brings more profit then trading, yes, trading is more safe strategy, but with small profit.
    And I think simple betting is better on long distance then trading. Simply you must bet cleverer then usually.
    Why do you think that gambling is more profitable than trading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggman View Post
    Why do you think that gambling is more profitable than trading?
    Indeed it isn't. But it's boring to argue with him. Thats why I don't bother.

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    They can't be compared in monetary terms, unless one knows what one is gambling on.
    If you are a bad gambler, but good market reader, then of course one will be more profitable.
    But then, you get people that punt on the tote making money, and couldn't trade to save themself.

    The only difference really, is if you compare people making the same amount, the one that is leaving a liability, must have a huge comparitive bankroll, than the trader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temujin View Post
    They can't be compared in monetary terms, unless one knows what one is gambling on.
    If you are a bad gambler, but good market reader, then of course one will be more profitable.
    But then, you get people that punt on the tote making money, and couldn't trade to save themself.

    The only difference really, is if you compare people making the same amount, the one that is leaving a liability, must have a huge comparitive bankroll, than the trader.
    Right. Now Imagine if the trader used bettor's bankroll....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyYou View Post
    It appears that I am among the youngest here.
    LuckyYou

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggman View Post
    Why do you think that gambling is more profitable than trading?
    I noticed that I made experiments on totals. I talk about in-play. Look, for example trading 3,5, you can bet after 1st goal with big coeff, and most games will be less than 3,5, but you took high coeff. So no sense to scalp some small %. Scalping is betting against next goal with the same risk.
    Or for example you scalp Formula, Vettel 1,5, for example I bet Vettel for 1,5, you scalp from 1,5 to 1,45, then 1,30to 1,25, and so on, you again bet on Vettel during 2 minute and sell and you have for example 20-40% with the same risk, I have 50% with the same risk as you have.
    It's very hard to explain in English. I don't know you understand me or not. Experiments show that my simple bets are more profitable than scalping or trading. I frogot to say, I bet on Betdaq and trade on betfair. So I have more 200% with simple betting on Betdaq and big minus with trading on the same games on Betfair. I think this show everything what better is. I forgot again, I have accounts on Pinnacle and some Russian bookies and I also have more than 200% profit in each bookie. I trade only on Betfair and have big minus. Or maybe it just for me, maybe I bad trader, but good bettor. But why I trade and bet the same games and have minus on Betfair? Explain me that paradox, if you know answer. Usually I have 5-10% from trading on totals full game.

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    YEAHHH. WE have a Gran'pa!

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    sorry to dissapoint you, but that just me wanted to make a bit of fun bruhahahaha
    справка по The Geeks Toy на русском »» здеся ««

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    I'm a grandad, my grandson is nearly 4 years old, but I'm not over 60 - does that count?

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    I am well into my seventies with 60+ years of bookies and betting. I started running bets for illegal betting outside factory gates as a ten year old. I am a founder member of Betfair community but, not a grand'pa. I've looked for a smiley of the grim reaper but, my eyes are not too good these days !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyYou View Post
    YEAHHH. WE have a Gran'pa!
    I'm not grandpa, I think I just lucky man.
    Look. I bet against trend on Betdaq, and today I very closely to 250%. On Betfair, I lost more than 75% of my bankroll, and I scalping with trend. What is it? So while simple betting is more profitable than trading or scalping. I think it because people love to go downstream(scalping) and they forget about real situation on field. Maybe bots follow coeffs of bookies. But they forget that bookies give 1,01, when 1,10, and cross-matching show 100 without margin. Because of it underdog is overrated, and favorite is underrated, the same with totals. I hope you understand what i mean. It's very hard to exaplin in English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOTBIIAJIbTO View Post
    They are not allowed to bet yet i suppose
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Obrestad
    http://betting.betfair.com/poker/annette_15/

    she started to play poker on BetFair when she was 15
    raked a fortune

    PS: they enforce the laws & rules that suits them fine.
    and are apparently unaware of any contradiction on using as testimonial someone who patently violated and broke the rules.
    Note: I'm not trying to sustain any moralistic/bigot/hypocritical point of view, and I have got nothing against the young Norwegian prodige: well done and all my compliments to Annette

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    Quote Originally Posted by PesceLesso View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Obrestad
    http://betting.betfair.com/poker/annette_15/

    she started to play poker on BetFair when she was 15
    raked a fortune

    PS: they enforce the laws & rules that suits them fine.
    and are apparently unaware of any contradiction on using as testimonial someone who patently violated and broke the rules.
    Note: I'm not trying to sustain any moralistic/bigot/hypocritical point of view, and I have got nothing against the young Norwegian prodige: well done and all my compliments to Annette
    Pros are pros. They have to respected. No matter FX, Poker, Horse trading, Sports Betting, Warcraft III, Star Craft II, Football or Ping-Pong... And no matter how old are they

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