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    Morning all. Focus for the Group and black type racing today moves away from Sydney with the best racing today at Eagle Farm,Hawksbury and Morphettville. Sydney racing shifts to Hawkesbury today so no major feature races in the harbour city today. I'm having network and computer issues at the moment so I'll do my best to post the selections for today. I'll try and update as we go along today. Hopefully we can find you a winner or three. Here are the early selections. Hope you have a winning day.

    EAGLE FARM: (Please be aware there is a thatch issue with the Eagle Farm track and there is concern regarding safety)
    R4 no 2 Snitzkraft 3rd
    R6 no 1 Takedown 4th
    R7 no 1 Dreams Aplenty Won $2.70
    R8 no 9 Mystic Opal..... Won $4.70 huge run last start.

    MORPHETTVILLE:
    R6 no 6 Mubakkir.......longshot place chance to Best Fortune currently 50/1.
    R7 no 9 Plenty to Like 4th @ 25/1
    R8 no 1 Morvada 3rd

    CAULFIELD:
    R2 no 3 Zahspeed 4th
    R5 no 1 Doubt I'm Dreaming 3rd
    R6 no 8 Wise Hero Won $5.20
    R7 no 10 Grey Street Won $4.20

    LAY BETS:

    MR3 no 11 Mr Sneaky Won $2.50 Lay bet lost
    MR9 no 11 Fastnet Latina Started Fav, Ran 2nd. Lay bet won
    HWKR7 no5 Calandra
    Ran unplaced. Lay bet won

    BETFAIR BSP
    Estimate is 72.5 Actual is 88.5 so bet today is Unders. Unders won


    Cheers n Beers
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    Morns Ned Hi Dags...good luck today.

    Today I like

    HAWKESBURY
    R2 1 SERENA BAY
    R6 2 ARTISTRY
    R7 4 SPRIGHT

    CAULFIELD
    R1 4 JUDELLY
    R3 11 MR SNEAKY Won $2.50
    R4 2 MOONLITES CHOICE
    R5 1 DOUBT I'M DREAMING 3rd
    R7 10 GREY STREET Won $4.20
    R8 1 CHARMED HARMONY 2nd

    Good Luck everyone
    Remember to use a bookie that has a bonus like cash back for place,
    or just Use Betfair for better odds http://bit.ly/2cslUH3
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    Alright Ned

    Lay of Fastnet Latina got me out of my ordinary day

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by dags View Post
    Alright Ned

    Lay of Fastnet Latina got me out of my ordinary day

    cheers
    Glad it worked out for you Dags.....Regards.

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    Morns Ned

    Today I like

    Rosehill
    R3 2 BLACK ON GOLD Won $7
    R9 4* BONNY O'REILLY Won $3.50

    Flemington
    R2 3 DE LITTLE ENGINE Won $2.70
    R6 2 ZASORCERESS

    Morphetteville
    R2 8 LAMBORGHINI

    Gold Coast
    R2 2 IRISH CONSTABULARY
    R7 1* IT'S SOMEWHAT Won $2.40


    * I like it more

    Dont forget to bet with bookies that offer money back for place otherwise bet with Betfair http://bit.ly/2cslUH3
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    My poor old computer completely shit itself last week so my apologies for no posts of tips or results. Had to dive into the bank balance and shout myself a completely new set up. Unfortunately I lost all my Geek Toy settings so got up this morning and managed to reinstate 90% of what I had including some odd bits and unusual colours so hopefully thats enough excitement for a while and we can get back to business as usual.
    Many thanks to Dags who produced an outstanding effort once again in my absence.
    Racing today focuses on Doomben whilst Sydney racing heads off to Scone.
    Here are todays selections:

    DOOMBEN:
    R3 no 2 Jumbo Prince 3rd
    R6 no 11 Zambezi Warrior 4th
    R7 no 13 Derryn 3rd

    GOLD COAST:
    R3 No 6 Ned's Round.
    R8 no 1 Red Scarlett 4th

    CAULFIELD:
    R4 no 14 Our Peaky Blinders
    R5 no 3 Zebrinz 2nd
    R7 no 1 Mongolian Wolf

    LAY BETS:
    Scone R 5 no 1 Prized IconRan 2nd. Lay bet won
    Caul R 4 no 9 Coram Ran unplaced. Lay bet Won
    Doom R7 no 12 Russian Revolution. Ran unplaced. Lay bet Won


    BETFAIR BSP Estimate is 76.5 Actual is 90.5 so bet today is Unders.


    Cheers n Beers
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    Hey Ned, Yes last week was good

    today I like

    Caulfield
    R7 1 MONGOLIAN WOLF

    Morphettville
    R8 2 LIEDER

    SCONE:

    R1 6 INTERLOCUTER (already Ran 2nd)2nd
    R3 3 *ALMANZORA 4th
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    There were some dreadful results last week so the bookies had a field day. Lets hope its our turn this week. Brisbane has had some heavy rain in the past 48 hours however the sun is shining as I pen this and racing at Doomben is on despite the Heavy 9 track. The Gold Coast has had its racing abandoned for the day. Flemington and Rosehill and Morphettville are all on so we will still get a good selection of saturday racing to choose our selections from.
    Wont be able to update fully today as I'm off to watch the Brisbane Lions get slaughtered by the Adelaide Crows. Think I'll take the 50 points start Brisbane so I have some chance of getting a good run for my money. Otherwise its an early departure for the nearby German Club for some good old German beer, sausages and sauerkraut.
    Here are today's selections and may God give em strength.!

    DOOMBEN:
    R4 no 1 Tactical Advantage Won $5.....rough place chance to Zuminko @$34
    R5 no 7 Elegant Composure
    R6 no 2 Kenedna Won $3.50
    R7 no 1 Its Somewhat
    R8 no 10 Man Of His Word......currently $21...expect him to flash home late. Good place chance.

    FLEMINGTON:
    R2 no 5 Divine Quality 3rd
    R6 no 4 Lucques
    R8 mo 2 Observational

    MORPHETTVILLE:
    R6 no1 Burning Front Won $4
    R7 no1 Black Heart Bart


    LAY BETS:

    Br3 no 3 Hidden Pearl Ran unplaced. Lay bet won
    MR6 no 1 De Little Engine Won $3.50. Lay bet lost
    AR1 no 18 So You Too Started Fav. Ran 2nd Lay bet won.

    BETFAIR BSP Index estimate is 113.5. Actual is 98.5 so bet is overs Overs Won


    Cheers n Beers
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    Hey Ned, yes was ordinary last week.

    Good Luck at the game today, being a Tigers supporter I'm glad i didnt go to the game last night, even my Son wouldn't have been able to wave his flag... anyway

    Running a bit late again today

    Today I like

    Rosehill
    R1 1 VIRIDINE (already raced and won 3.1) Won
    R3 1 NEW UNIVERSE (already raced and won 1.7)Won
    R4 4 SCHEDULE
    R8 12 BONNY O'REILLY Won $3.60

    Doomben
    R4 1 TACTICAL ADVANTAGE Won $5
    R5 5 UNTAMED DIAMOND 2nd
    R8 8 SPLURGE

    Fleminton
    R2 5 DIVINE QUALITY (already raced and placed 1.3)3rd
    R4 4 ATLANTIC EXPRESS 3rd

    Morphetteville
    R1 18 SO YOU TOO 2nd
    R3 1 HIGH CHURCH 2nd
    R4 3 ANA ROYALE Won $3.60
    R8 10 FUHRYK Won $2.70
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    Morning all.
    Its that time of the year again when Rugby League takes center stage for the first of the three State of Origin games between Queensland and New South Wales. The bookies have NSW slight favorites with the line at 1.5 points to Queensland. These games are always great to watch and of course I'll be cheering on the Cane Toads whilst Dags will be supporting the Sky Blues. Should be fun.
    Today the focus remains on Eagle Farm with plenty of Group races with the highlight being the Group 1 $700,000 Darley Kingsford- Smith Cup over 1300m.
    I dont need to tell you that The Brisbane Lions were thumped by the Adelaide Crows last Saturday night by 80 points however the German Club was excellent and the company was great. Still havent fully recovered from the excessive alcohol consumption but I'm almost there!!
    Here are todays selections and if I get a chance I'll update as the day rolls along.

    EAGLE FARM:

    R3 no 14 Melody Belle Won $7.50 ...think Pierata Ran 3rd @ 50/1 has a place chance at odds
    R4 no 13 Zambezi Warrior 2nd
    R5 no 4 Black on Gold
    R6 no 3 Egyptian Symbol..2nd....Miss Cover Girl is the value here at $13 plus.
    R7 no 11 Derryn......if you like Clearly Innocent Won $12 then back it each way here.
    R8 no 5 Dreams A Plenty

    RANDWICK:
    R7 no 2 Beyond Thankful......currently 20/1
    R9 no 3 The Bull

    SANDOWN:
    R4 no 2 Renew Won $2.45
    R8 no 1 Zamzam



    LAY BETS:
    BR6 no 8 Raiment Started Fav. Ran unplaced. Lay bet won
    BR7 no 1 Black Heart Bart Started Fav. Ran unplaced. Lay bet won
    SR7 no 6 Broadside Started fav. Ran 2nd. Lay bet won
    SR8 no 11 Badajoz Started Fav. Ran 2nd. Lay bet won
    MR5 no 6 Goathland Started $2.30 fav. Ran 3rd. Lay bet won

    Betfair BSP Estimate is 64.5. Actual BSP is 80.5 so bet today is Unders Unders Won



    Cheers n Beers.
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    Hi Ned,

    Yes Origin on Wednesday night, and i should have taken the the points start on NSW a couple of weeks ago, I think Myles and Lillyman are lucky to be there with hess and Wallace playing well at the moment. NSW starting to blood some yonger players, GO THE BLUES


    Today I Like

    Randwick
    R6 12 IN TIMES OF WAR Won $3.20

    Sandown
    R3 2 ZED EM 2nd
    R4 2 RENEW Won $2.45
    R5 6 GOATHLAND 3rd

    Eagle farm
    R2 2 AMOVATIO
    R3 1 TANGLED
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    Well the New South Wales State of origin team soundly beat the Queenslanders who simply did not turn up to play hard tough rugby. Dont think they will rebound in the next two matches so unfortunately I predict a white wash (or should that read blue wash?) in this years contest.
    On to today's racing and here are the selections for today's racing and hopefully there are some profits here for us today.
    If I get a chance I'll update as the meetings proceed.

    DOOMBEN:
    R1 no 11 Italia Bella 2nd.
    R6 no 10 Deploy Won $5.70......Chance to Dothraki each way 2nd
    R7 no 1 Kenedna 4th
    R8 no 8 Bonny O'Reilly Won $2.50

    ROSEHILL:
    R3 no1 Dagny 4th
    R4 no 3 Zamex Won $4.
    R8 no 6 Snoopy

    MOONEE VALLEY:
    R5 no 4 Coldstone 3rd
    R8 no 9 Hursley 3rd

    BELMONT:
    R7 no 1 Scales Of Justice. 2nd

    LAY BETS:
    MR1 no 1 Wired Started Fav. Ran 3rd. Lay bet won
    BR4 no 1 Preferment Ran unplaced. Lay bet won
    BR7 no 2 Egg Tart Started $3.50 fav. Won Lay bet lost
    MR8 no 15 Overberg Ran unplaced. Lay bet won


    BETFAIR BSP Estimate today is 89.5 Actual today is 94.5 so bet is Unders.


    Cheers n Beers.
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    Morns ned

    Love your comments, I think Hess, Wallace and Slater have to come in, and Thurston if fit
    Thanks Dags...great tipping again today..well done.

    Today I like

    Doomben
    r3 1 HIGH MIDNIGHT
    r7 2 EGG TART Won $3.50
    r8 8 BONNY O'REILLY Won $2.50

    Mooney Valley
    r4 4 THE PASSAGE**2nd
    r7 6 CAMDUS Won $4

    Rosehill
    r3 1 DAGNY 4th
    r5 7 JUST DREAMING Won $6.50
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    Spotlight is on Brisbane today with the running of the Stradbroke Handicap at Doomben. Its a race worth AUD$1.5m in prizemoney and this is only the second time its been run at Doomben. Normally its at Eagle Farm however there is a monumental $10m stuff up there with the new grass track which wont drain properly and has been declared unsafe. Yet again the taxpayers will be called upon to fix this problem at a time when racetrack crowds are vanishing. With a Queensland election on the horizon my bet is that we will have a new Racing Minister within a year.
    Dags managed to snare a 130% profit with his tips last week so he continues his fine form since he joined this column. He will have more to smile about as the week progresses and the State of Origin rugby league match takes place on Wednesday 21st June. NSW will be odds on to win this and should do so easily.
    Here are today's selections and time permitting results will be updated as the meetings progress.

    DOOMBEN
    R3 no 6 Moher 3rd
    R5 no 2 Oak Door
    R7 no 4 Mongolian Wolf
    R8 no 13 Egyptian Symbol ...each way at 20/1.
    R9 no 11 Zambezi Warrior

    RANDWICK:
    R1 no 4 Champagne Cuddles Won $2.30
    R3 no 3 Clipper Won
    R4 no 2 Soviet Courage
    R7 no 13 Old Man Sam....each way at around 15/1.

    FLEMINGTON:
    R1 no 2 Lone Eagle
    R4 no 5 Groathland 2nd
    R5 no 8 Zourkhan2nd
    R7 no 8 Zebrinz

    LAY BETS:
    BR1 no 1 Heroic ValourRan unplaced. Lay bet won
    BR3 no 1 Religify Won $3.80 Lay bet lost
    BR4 no 8 Bonny O'Reilly Ran 3rd. Lay bet won
    BR8 no 1 Clearly Innocent Ran 3rd Lay bet won
    SR4 no 1 Broadside Ran 3rd. Lay bet won
    MR3 no 2 Santa Ana Lane Ran unplaced. Lay bet won

    BETFAIR BSP Estimate for Flemington is: 87.5. Actual is 90.5 so bet today is Unders.

    Cheers n Beers
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    Racing in Brisbane switches out to Ipswich today where the track is a heavy(8) thanks to some large rainfalls during the week.Its a popular day for the locals where the highlight is the running of the Channel 7 Ipswich Cup. Its a nine event program and despite the heavy track there are maximum fields nominated so picking winners there today wont be easy.
    Lets hope we can find a few more winners today than we did last week.
    Time permitting I'll update as the meetings progress.

    IPSWICH: Track now soft 7.
    R5 no 16 Zilitor
    R6 no 9 Hot Money
    R7 no 3 Sort After
    R8 no 9 Casual Choice.......longshot place chance to Strawberry Boy at 35/1
    R9 no 1 Kinshachi.2nd

    ROSEHILL: Track Heavy 8
    R3 no 2 Zamex Won $3.50
    R4 no 6 Test The World. Won $3.20

    MOONEE VALLEY: Track Good 4
    R4 no 2 Every Faith
    R9 no 4 Leodoro

    BELMONT Track Good 4.
    R6 no 6 Paseo Del Prado....each way currently $14/1
    R7 no 1 Scales of Justice. Won Class horse getting ready for Melb Spring Carnival.

    LAY BETS:
    MR2 no 1 If Not Now When Started 2nd Fav. Ran 3rd. Lay bet won
    MR6 no 1 Katsuro Scratched.
    MR8 no 14 Data Point Ran 3rd. Lay bet won
    SR7 no 3 Badajoz Ran 2nd. Lay bet won
    SR7 no 8 Sir Plush Won $5.80. Lay bet lost

    BETFAIR BSP Estimate is 79.5 Actual is 86.5 so bet today is Unders.


    Cheers n Beers.
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    Morns Ned,

    Sorry missed last weekend, a mate and I went to Bundy for the weekend for our Mecca tour, the Bundy Rum Distillery, and yes we got plenty of souvenirs. So now back to the action.

    Today I like


    Ipswich
    R5 2 SUNDANCE 4th 3.40 @ Crown
    R7 3 SORT AFTER 4.60 @ Centrebet

    Rosehill
    R8 7 CARZOFF 2nd 2.60 @ most books

    Mooney Valley
    R6 4 HIGHLAND BEAT 3rd 5.0 @ Unibet
    R9 4 LEODORO 3.10 @ Unibet
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    Racing NSW has done it again. Effective from July 1st they have increased the race fields legislation fee to Betfair from 1.5% up to 2% and increase of 33.33%. But it gets worse. They have introduced fees for non standard races which are referred to as Premium race days to 2.5%. But wait it gets worse. They have also introduced a new level of Race Days known as Premier race days and the fee for those days is a whopping 3%.

    Now surely it can't get any worse than that but you guessed it...it does.!!
    The increases are based on what is known as the Turnover model. That means that Betfair pay a fee on ALL of their turnover. If you trade say $100 on a horse by backing it and then laying it at say the same price, Betfair are charged on the turnover of $200. With all other state racing bodies in Australia the model in place is the Revenue Model and the fee payable under the example above would be NIL.

    So what does this mean in practical terms. Well if we look at other States in Australia, Victoria, Tasmania, Queensland. South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory the Betfair punter is charged a fee of 6% which includes the race legislation fee and Betfair commission.
    For a punter who bets on New South Wales racing the fee will now be a whopping 10%. And yet again it gets worse because of the NSW Turnover model so Betfair will severely limit anyone who trades on the NSW racing events.
    And to put it in perspective as to how serious this increase is, then to quote Betfair "Racing NSW is now the most expensive product in the world that Betfair offers to its customers"
    Little wonder that racing in Australia is going backwards in terms of attendances and turnover when Racing bodies continue to attack the punter rather then look at other sources such as Owners and Breeders.

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    Here is the official Betfair news release in respect of the charges raised by Racing NSW.

    In mid-May, Racing New South Wales (RNSW) notified Betfair that from July there would be a 33% increase in the fees paid for Standard Meetings.

    From July, 56% of any revenue generated by Betfair on NSW thoroughbreds will be paid to RNSW. This is before any taxes and operating costs to offer and market this product are paid.

    The increase by RNSW means that even a standard mid-week NSW thoroughbred meeting would now be 51% more expensive than the Melbourne Cup. Across all meeting types, RNSW is now the most expensive product for Betfair to offer in the world.

    Unfortunately, the increase in fees from RNSW has resulted in us having to increase the Market Base Rate on all Racing NSW races from 8% to 10%, from July 1 2017. We are also re-introducing the Racing NSW Turnover Charge.

    Betfair customers can continue to enjoy other thoroughbred racing jurisdictions, such as Racing Victoria, Racing Queensland, Tasracing and Canberra Racing Club at the lower rate of 6%.

    For more information, and to get all the facts, visit the Betfair Hub.

    The Betfair Team

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    It never ceases to amaze me how racing continually shoots itself in the foot. The decision by Racing NSW is in my view a clear attempt to try and get rid of Betfair out of the scene by simply raising taxes until the level of unsustainability is reached. Racing is dependent on Government support and its ability to attract particpants. Its bad enough that the Corporates close your account for reasons that have been widely discussed and noted. However to try and drive Betfair out of the picture in the vain hope that everyone will return to the local TAB is plain stupid. We already have a serious problem with offshore bookmakers and all the removal of Betfair from Australia will do is to drive the punting dollar offshore or to other areas such as the football codes. The day will come when Governments will simply not continue to fund racing and its costly infrastructure. This will occur when crowds and turnover levels diminish not that far below where they are today so the game that Racing NSW is playing is shortsighted and potentially harmful to the longterm viability of the industry.
    Now that I have that off my chest here are todays selections.

    DOOMBEN:

    BR1 no 15 Cruising Speed Won $5
    Br 5 no 1 Rudy Won 3.25
    Br 6 no 1 Religify Won $3.30
    Br7 no 3 In Her Time 3rd
    Br8 no 2 Deploy...4th..each way chance Dothraki.

    RANDWICK:
    R2 no 4 Memes Won $3.50
    R4 no 2 Atlantic Sentinel
    R5 no 2 Richard of Yorke

    FLEMINGTON:
    R7 no 11 Zagaya 2nd
    R8 no 6 Loyalty Man
    R9 no 3 Samovare Late Scratching

    LAY BETS:
    MR1 No 2 Royal Symphony Won $1.95 Fav. Lay bet lost
    MR8 no 2 Tshahitsi Ran 3rd. Lay bet won
    SR1 no 4 The Last StarfighterRan 2nd. Lay bet won
    SR9 no 6 Wild Acclaim Ran unplaced. Lay bet won

    BETFAIR BSP Estimate is 113.5 Actual is 101.5 so todays bet is Overs.


    Cheers n Beers
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    Morns Ned

    Agree 100% with your comments,Thanks Dags. if they want the punter to use the TAB then just offer better odds and be more competitive.

    Today I Like

    Randwick
    R2 3 GHOSTLY 3.20 2nd.
    R5 4 COLLATERAL 2.60 Won $2.60
    R7 9 TESSERA 2.50 4th
    R9 15 ARGENT D'OR 7.00

    Flemington
    R6 15 ABILITY 3.10 Won $4.20
    R7 6 REWARDING EFFORT 2.70 3rd.
    R8 9 CANNYESCENT 2.90 Won $3.30

    Doomben
    R3 5 RED HOT MISS 4.80
    R5 1 RUDY 2.45 Won $3.25
    R7 3 IN HER TIME 2.90 3rd

    Ladbrokes Odds used as a guide... Good Luck
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