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jason_x
21st February 2012, 04:12 PM
After losing a bunch of money on horse racing I tried Greyhounds place market. To hard to hit the win market consistently but the place market is surprisingly easy to beat. I just go to William Hill site and look through all the various aids they have available in the "dogs running form" applet linked just above the main page for each race. It's a relatively easy matter to determine from all available information on there one dog which is not ranked a top 2 favourite but actually has a very good chance of placing 1st or 2nd. Since they are non-favs you can get pretty good odds on them. This morning I made $66 betting $6 per race. I had a 50% strike rate from 18 games and the prices were always between 2 and 4. Once I made a mistake and accidentally backed a different dog than I intended to. It lost but the one I had intended to back actually came in 1st. Would have made a couple more units on that one.

It's very tricky trying to trade on the dogs but simply doing this place market backing of undervalued dogs is working very nicely so far. Could be a one day lucky streak but it looks very promising so far. If the prices happen to go down I could lay it off but this rarely happens. Just going with the bets seems more profitable anyway. The William Hill site is very good for getting all required info quickly and freely. Interestingly, their computer generated "Predictor" is nowhere near as accurate as simply doing it manually by viewing all available data. You can easily pick out the relevant stats and mentally judge the outcome a lot better than any computer. They are locked into a set methodology while a human can make a more realistic judgment in a few minutes of comparisons just before the race starts.

I usually start going through the info about 10 minutes prior to off time and have a selection nailed down with plenty of betting time left. Then I place the bets seconds before the race starts, getting the best prices. Sometimes they start later than indicated but after you see one or two late starts at the same tracks you know the real projected start time. This can often be about 2 minutes late but it stays the same lateness on that track for the rest of the day. I don't know why. Maybe their clocks are running slow, who knows.

dvwooly
21st February 2012, 08:43 PM
is a place top 3?

jason_x
22nd February 2012, 01:45 AM
No, not in dogs. Only 6 dogs so place is only the first two. It's a lot more consistent than horses that way though, since it's always the same number. There may be 8 dog races in the Australian or NZ races but I can't play those anyway without a bunch more ID documents.

The dogs are actually better than horses in many ways. With horses the jockey has a lot to do with how the horse runs. Dogs just go all out the whole way. They are also very evenly matched most of the time so it's a lot less dominated by the favourites.

Anyway, it's worth a try if you have trouble making money on the horses like I did. Lost about $2000 on them in about two weeks betting on mostly 15-50 to 1 longshots. The prices looked good compared to the tote boards on the live video but I guess the losing runs will wipe you out before they start coming in. The longshot horses just never seem to come in, unless you lay them. Then they come right in. Happens every time. I did actually hit a few though in that time, about three 50s and some 20s but never enough to make up for the losses. Does get the adrenaline going when it happens though. Too bad it doesn't happen enough to make up for all the losses. I would bet on 3 or 4 horses each race to have a better chance of hitting, but that means only one can win and the others all lose. Too few races and too much time between them to just bet on one per race.

4everlost
22nd February 2012, 08:14 AM
The dogs are actually better than horses in many ways. With horses the jockey has a lot to do with how the horse runs. Dogs just go all out the whole way. They are also very evenly matched most of the time so it's a lot less dominated by the favourites.

The dish lickers aint as "honest" (at least here in Oz) as it may appear. A dog finds it hard to run at its best when it's had nuts squeezed, or has a gut full of food or water, or has been run ragged before arriving at the track. I suppose not having a jockey to hold back a masochistic mutt that's just had his nuts squeezed and still has a desire to run fast could possibly happen.
Keep an eye out for high priced mutts that shorten in the last 10 - 20 seconds before the off. Got a nice one on with the TAB a while back, for 3 mins it was at odds of 75, then nose dived down to 18.50 with about 15 secs to go, for a change I was alert and quick enough to to get on, I'm usually way to slow when it comes to the dogs, and haven't really looked to see if this happens on Betfair as well.

dvwooly
22nd February 2012, 07:16 PM
been looking at the dogs, i have a decent strike rate so far tonight just paper trading ...........

sunderland

6.39 5
6.56 2
7.11 6
7.27 4
7.43 3
7.58 3
8.14 2
8.31 3
8.47 6
9.02 1
9.17 6
9.31 6

dvwooly
22nd February 2012, 07:22 PM
Romford
7.30 5
7.46 2
8.03 2
8.19 4
8.35 5
8.53 5
9.09 4
9.25 5
9.41 2
9.57 5
10.13 6
10.30 6

shadowninja
22nd February 2012, 08:10 PM
No losses?

dvwooly
22nd February 2012, 09:16 PM
Worked great at Sunderland but nothing at Romford!!!!

dvwooly
23rd December 2012, 11:16 AM
:eek: my behaviour is so predictable.... 10 months later and i have gone full circle!!

Today i have selected some dogs to place ... here are the trap numbers (no times as i think this method is quite profitable!)

3
4
4
3
6
2
5
4
4
3
5
3
4
4
4
5
4
2
4