4:00 Southwell gubbing

[Boo]

Calculus Affair matched at 1.02 for £11K and 1.01 for £12K gets nailed by a 50/1 shot :eek:

[The Joker]

Do people still back at those odds?? sweet Jesus when will they learn? :confused:

Lets hope its a few millionaires that got stung and a few people made redundant that were smart enough to be on the lay side?? would be nice if unlikely! :(

[rockaren]

It wasn't me :(

[Scumbag trader]

Do people still back at those odds?? sweet Jesus when will they learn? :confused:

Lets hope its a few millionaires that got stung and a few people made redundant that were smart enough to be on the lay side?? would be nice if unlikely! :(

There is actually money in it, you've just got to be careful.

[rockaren]

Do people still back at those odds?? sweet Jesus when will they learn? :confused:

Lets hope its a few millionaires that got stung and a few people made redundant that were smart enough to be on the lay side?? would be nice if unlikely! :(

Maybe it's crazy bots, bad programming...lol

[Scumbag trader]

Maybe it's crazy bots, bad programming...lol

And money buyers . . . . .

[The Joker]

There is actually money in it, you've just got to be careful.

carefull aint the word mate a hazmat suite or full NBC kit would be more like it! LOL :D

[Boo]

New underpants for the money buyers today.

[jimrobo]

if they can afford them! Might have to be Primarni though

[Scumbag trader]

lol definetly, i can't see the attraction of it to be honest. £100 to win £1 not my sort of bet.

[The Joker]

lol definetly, i can't see the attraction of it to be honest. £100 to win £1 not my sort of bet.

Better laying 1.01 you have any joy with that and ur in running skills ST??

[Scumbag trader]

Better laying 1.01 you have any joy with that and ur in running skills ST??

That's for the fast pics and on course traders. No money in it imo for the stay at home player unless you can get to the front of the queue when the markets open.

[The Joker]

That's for the fast pics and on course traders. No money in it for the stay at home player unless you can get to the front of the queue when the markets open.

Lay the field I guess then wait and see! :rolleyes:

[rockaren]

Lay the field I guess then wait and see! :rolleyes:

Is it a good strategy ? Feels more like gambling than trading...but I have no idea, maybe its profitable enough ....

[Cran]

should work, but you need to be able to take big losing runs.

There's two strategies that I can see that might work

1) lay at low odds (1.01)
2) back at low odds (1.01), but hedge for a loss bloody quick if it starts going out again.

given that about 1 in 65 horses that trade at 1.01 In Running don't win there is a possibility to make money with both strategies over the long term. Laying at 1.01 is probably safer but less return.

Short term it could do anything so you need to be completely strict with your staking and liability over 1000's of bets.

Backing low might work better in sports where there is more time to get out before the odds drift too far.

There aren't enough 1000/1 winners to make backing at 1000 worthwhile.

[The Joker]

I think Scumbag was right when he said its for the quick pics and race goers you're gonna need a real eye for this sort of thing and that like everything else BF will come with experience! I wonder what the poercentages are on horses that trade upto say 1.25 there are generally real close run races during the day tho possibly not down to those odds often, odds upto 2.0 though are fairly regular. I think if Ukeleledan were here :) he'd be warning us of doing ur bollox on a bad race and sticking with small stakes to practise with! Still would be interesting to find the percentages perhaps to find a position of value where you could lay and back in quick succession to secure a small green or even just play the straight percentages with strict staking rules??

Shergar:rolleyes:

[Scotty_73]

Yesterday there were a few horses that got beat from odds of 1.1 and lower... there was Irish meeting where horse fell at last with 6 length lead. I always think about doing these lays but the issue is that there is so much money which is bet/laid way in advance at these low odds that you probably wont get matched easily.. might be best to pick slightly higher prices but then you have increased liability.

I used to lay field for about 1.4 on short distance handicaps its just too much of hit and miss to really generate consistent profits.. I got 4 matched once but its too inconsistent... I experimented to find ideal race and there was a slightly better strike rate on short sprints but if you look at yesterday there were quite a few races which were over 2M where this would have worked.

[J.S.]

Perhaps laying with an offset to back and green might work. I was thinking maybe something like lay at 1.09 and back at 1.19 as prices do often hover between these points typically before steaming in to 1.01. Not a huge profit but the liability would be low if it goes tits up.

[Scumbag trader]

I think Scumbag was right when he said its for the quick pics and race goers you're gonna need a real eye for this sort of thing and that like everything else BF will come with experience! I wonder what the poercentages are on horses that trade upto say 1.25 there are generally real close run races during the day tho possibly not down to those odds often, odds upto 2.0 though are fairly regular. I think if Ukeleledan were here :) he'd be warning us of doing ur bollox on a bad race and sticking with small stakes to practise with! Still would be interesting to find the percentages perhaps to find a position of value where you could lay and back in quick succession to secure a small green or even just play the straight percentages with strict staking rules??

Shergar:rolleyes:

I think he would say that (;)), even though most of the stuff he said was carp :cool: :D

[Ted]

Towcester is the top track for very short price in-run losers, steep hill run-in, track holds water,often heavy.

Someone a couple of weeks ago put the actual figs up, on this site, for 1.01's (horse racing)

Some of the 1.01 brigade, cop for the lowest price, as a result of ticking 'the odds overide' button, in

illiquid markets U can go from 1.16 to 1.01, with little, or nothing, inbetween ! ha ha :D