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Traded Amount

July 31, 2018
Hello. Go to ladder and right click on it, then go to traded volume type and click on bars. Thats it.


How the Stop loss actually works?

July 30, 2018
Hi There,

Just a query regarding the stop loss feature and more specifically the "Place Stop At +" option.

So, if I set a Stop loss value of say 7 and a Place stop at value of 2, and then place a lay bet at 4.0 on the ladder, an orange box appears at 3.65 which is 7 ticks from my bet, which all makes sense.

If the price trades at 3.65 my stop loss will trigger and place a back bet at 3.55 (two ticks away).

My understanding is that when the stop loss trigger bet is placed at 3.55, because there is still money in the market at 3.65 it will actually get match there instead. (Better value)

Is my understanding correct? ie, if I set the "Place Stop At +" value to something stupid like say 20, it doesn't really matter as when it is triggered it will technically match at the better price of 3.65 anyway (If money is available).

I just want to understand because technically that option to place stop at is kind of irrelevant in some ways, or am i just misunderstanding and talking crap :D

I hope that makes sense.


Stop loss question

July 29, 2018
Hi guys! Could you please tell me how can I close my position on the ladder manually if my stop loss bet is not getting matched?

2 ladders same money on both markets

July 28, 2018
can anyone explain this Attached Thumbnails    


July 27, 2018
Forumul asta a murit de tot???


July 24, 2018
Hi ,

I heard from a fellow trader that another beta is available where we can see how many seconds is the bet matching time for the ongoing football matches.

How is it possible to have the beta?

I am willing to pay if needed.



Problem in stream ... Video data loading, please wait ...

July 20, 2018
Check also Internet explorer version. I have IE 11 version

No Traded Volume data showing, or Yellow Status showing in Market & API Status window

July 16, 2018
After contacting BF they just say:Unfortunately for these issues you will need to speak to them as from our end we are very limited on what we can do for this
Anyone else had/having this issue?
Anyone resolve this issue?

Stop Loss Marker

July 14, 2018
Hi There,

Is there any way to have a stop loss marker on the ladder but no actually apply the stop loss?

As in, When I place a bet at 4.0 I would like the ladder highlighted exactly as it does when you turn on the stop loss feature, however when the market hits that price I dont want it to kick in and apply, I purely want a visual marker on the ladder.

I hope that makes sense?

Thank you.

Can it still be done?

July 14, 2018
hows it going keefter?

Horse Racing in OZ

July 14, 2018
Winter has arrived here with a vengeance. Hard to jump out of the cot this morning and throw off two doonas as the temperature was single digits. Sydney and Melbourne trackworkers had to cope with zero temps and poor old Canberra trackworkers were exposed to temps around minus 6deg Celsius.
Some tough fields around today however we will do our best to pluck out some winners.
There a couple of black bookers running around today with Widgee Turf being one of the strongest chances.
Thought Redkirk Warrior had a strong each way chance at Newmarket, just need to forget its last run.

Here are todays selections and as usual will try and update as the meetings progress.
Good luck with your investments.

R2 no 4 Josephine Sea
R5 no 3 Rillito 2nd
R6 no 3 Mount Kilcoy Won $4.20
R7 no 6 Jukebox..3rd....thought Innkeeper 2nd would be a strong place chance
R9 no 1 Widgee Turf. 2nd...danger is no 3 Theanswermyfriend.

R1 no 1 The Fire Trap Won $5.20
R2 no 4 Petra Jewel is the value bet
R3 no 10 Deft 2nd
R6 no 4 Al Galayel
R7 no 5 Chamois Road.....each way
R8 no 13 Albumin.... Won $3.80...thought no 1 Flow was a place chance
R9 no 2 High Mist.

R1 no 2 Privaka 2nd
R2 no 6 Super Sauve 3rd
R3 no 4 Tumbler Late Scr.
R4 no 5 Zoustyle Won
R6 no 1 Megablast 3rd
R9 no 1 Shogun Sun

MR4 no 16 Demolition Won $3.30. Lay bet lost
SR7 no 13 Special Missile. Ran 3rd. Lay bet won

Cheers n Beers

If you work for Betfair

July 11, 2018
If you work for Betfair, let's say for example, write articles for them, there's no way Betfair would allow you to give away any information to punters that could lead them to make profits from Betfair. That would be a conflict of interests with Betfair and they would not let you work for them any more. Be careful who you listen to. If they work for Betfair, maybe, just maybe, they're trying to make money for Betfair. Stranger things have happened.

asian handicap markets

July 11, 2018
and other ladder again back bet waiting as lay price goes past

Percentage of profitable Betfair users

July 11, 2018
The vast majority of people attempting to trade on Betfair will not make a profit.

The text below is taken from and was highlighted by me to show the point I am making:

Premium Charges
The Premium Charge only applies in respect of bets placed on the Betfair Exchange and it does not apply to any bets placed on other Betfair products.

In addition to the other charges detailed above, a small number (less than 0.5%) of our most successful customers will incur Premium Charges.

Any customer affected by the Premium Charge will be notified in advance.

Calculating Potential Charges
Each week Betfair will calculate your ‘gross profits’* made, and your ‘total charges’** generated over the lifetime of your account. The details of these calculations are explained below.

You’ll only be considered for the Premium Charge if your account is in profit and only if the total charges generated since joining Betfair are less than 20%† of your gross profits.

The vast majority of customers, and even the majority of those whose betting on Betfair is profitable since they joined, do not meet both these conditions and will not incur the Premium Charge.

While those conditions accurately describe our most successful customers, they might also apply to new customers who have only bet in a few markets, or those whose accounts are in profit because of a significant big win. To ensure that those accounts are not inadvertently charged, we’ve added two further conditions: any single win that constitutes more than 50% of lifetime gross profits will be excluded from the calculation, and customers will only be considered for the Premium Charge after they have bet in more than 250 markets.

†Premium Charges at higher rates
Higher rates of Premium Charge will apply to the very small number of customers (less than 0.1%) that satisfy the following conditions over the lifetime of their account:

Lifetime net profits*** exceed £250,000
Commission generated less than 40% of lifetime gross profits
Bet in more than 1,000 markets

If you think you're going to be one of the tiny minority who does make a profit trading Betfair, you're probably delusional. Think about that long and hard before you spend any money trying to trade for a profit.

Removing an order

July 10, 2018
Hi There,

If I have my stake set to say £100 and I click to place an order in the market 3 times it obviously says £300 against that price on the ladder and sits waiting to be matched.

If I wanted to remove £200 and leave £100 on there, how do I do that?

Apart from removing the whole £300 and placing a new £100, is there a way to just remove part of what you put down if that makes sense?

Thank you


tick offset not working

July 9, 2018
after a place bet a set " all ip keep", should i selet this option or not?

Auto sort

July 9, 2018
Hi there... Just wondering if Geeks Toy auto sort for "near SP" and then "BSP" for last minute fav/2nd fav changes?
Love the software by the way and have done for years!

Newby traders: Don't get ripped off by successful traders

July 8, 2018
Successful traders are in direct competition with other traders. They have every reason NOT to give you help and advice. Be warned. Ask yourself. Why would a profitable trader share his profits with other people and end up with less money? No profitable trader in their right mind would do that.
Yes, they may give some basic information to get you interested, but never enough to be able to compete with them.

Profiles will not load - Maybe a restriction in Trial Edition?

July 3, 2018
Hi Thomas,

The settings folders are there for installation although we can't cater for the difference in screen sizes. My monitors are 2 x 27". In some instances this means that the pre-loaded profile (when activated) does creep off the edges of the screen.

In most cases you can change the window sizes with the tab at the bottom right of each window (e.g. the ladder). However, there have been one or two who have reported that their screen dimensions are so far off that they can't remedy this problem. Alternate options could be to;

1. Delete/Remove the extra settings folders. (and or re-install the toy if you prefer)
2. Create a custom profile of your own and copy over select settings sub-folders (would only advise this if you're comfortable doing that)


pop up windows close -- reopen market

June 29, 2018
i have problem with pop up windows. so before race start they clear a horse for example and then i can see a window like i attached. I heard that i can just click on this window and its reopen the same market (i dont need to search again this market to reopen). Can someone tell me where can i set it? So i just want to click to this window and the toy automatic reopen the same market where they cleared a horse. Attached Thumbnails  


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